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    Default Re: Secession

    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    Its not that hard to wrap your head around, actually. Its really, really basic if you respect democratic principles. Is a region united in its desire to be independent? Is that region capable of governing itself? Then let it be so, because nobody has the right to hold a group hostage under a system they don't want to participate in.

    You can dress up counter-arguments to that all you like, but self-determination is something that must be taken to its logical extreme, or its not really self-determination. However, as I said before, that is not the case here. Random and unverifiable internet petitions from a non-representative group of unverifiable people is not grounds for secession.
    Well I don't argue with that, postings on the internet by random or unverified posters are not responsible or worth much comment. If a State like Texs came forward, as a State after taking a referendum, I would have no opposition to allowing it to become a sovereign state.
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