Originally Posted by
The Celtic Viking
What unit are you looking at to say it's only 1 more than a buckler? Remember now that light units got a +1 shield, so if you're looking at Bagaudas, their buckler shield value is actually only 2 even though their shield stat is 3. It was an earlier attempt at making light infantry less useless.
As for the greaves on a Thureophoroi giving them the same armour value as Marians, that's true, but the reasoning being that the legs are more exposed than the chest area due to the shield, as I'm sure you know. This is of course a bit wonky as armour value protects from the back as well, which the greaves do not. Is it possible to put the greaves value on the shield instead, so it works from the front (+1 side) and vs missiles, but not from behind? I don't know, just something that struck me right now. The downside of that would be a less straight-forward stat system, of course, and possibly better defence vs missiles than they should have (from front and/or shield side at least) due to shield-value doubling... Just an un-thought-through idea, 's'all.
That non-Roman heavy infantry is better quality-wise is not wrong either... it's as it should be. They *should* be inferior to Gallic heavy infantry like Neitos, Arjos etc. What they've got is numbers and cost, which means that they can bring twice as many Cohortes Reformata/Imperatora as you can any of those even though they - the cohorts - still have more men individually as well. They were kind of the USSR of antiquity that way...
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