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    Default Re: responding to common objections to bible

    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    In the Catholic Medieval theology (so that's the first 1500 years) the Jewish prophets were in Hell, though possibly without torment, until Jesus freed them when he himself entered Hell.
    Which is quite aligned to Rhyf's belief in Abraham's bosom. The spirits in prison/paradise.
    But you have the canonical claim that Elijah and Moses appeared to Peter, James and John on the mount of transfiguration as TR referenced in his last post. This was before Christ's death. Now if Moses couldn't be released from Hell/Paradise before Christ's death, then you must assume that he didn't die, like Elijah and Enoch.

    About Enoch: Genesis 5:24 claim that God took him.
    The LDS faith (sorry TR) claim that Enoch with his entire city of Zion was taken from the earth and will at a future day return with all its citizens. Not entirely baseless as you will find references for this in the Apocrypha (2 Baruch ,
    Apocryphon of John).

    Jude in the New Testament quotes Enoch..

    It was to them that Enoch, the seventh in descent from Adam, directed his prophecy when he said: 'I saw the Lord come with his myriads of angels, to bring all men to judgement and to convict all the godless of all the godless deeds they had committed, and of all the defiant words which godless sinners had spoken against him.'
    (Jude:14-15)

    The book (Book of Enoch?) this quote is from, is lost. A missing scripture that was quote-worthy in the early church.
    Last edited by Sigurd; 05-15-2013 at 14:10.
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