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    It's the same deal with unpaid internships. Businesses spin government regulations as "Now we can't train the next generation of workers" When in reality they are just frustrated that they no longer have free labor anymore.


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    It's the same deal with unpaid internships. Businesses spin government regulations as "Now we can't train the next generation of workers" When in reality they are just frustrated that they no longer have free labor anymore.
    And H1-Bs.
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    And H1-Bs.
    I'm afraid I don't understand. H1-B is an immigrant visa?


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    I'm afraid I don't understand. H1-B is an immigrant visa?
    Companies are using them to depress wages in tech fields. They post job openings with crazy weird requirements, say no one is qualified when no matches are found, then push for more H1-B slots so they can hire an indentured servant on the cheap.
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    Yeah, listened to an interview about this on the radio, manufacturer complaining that he couldn't get good robotics integration specialists. So I thought, "Wow, that's sad, I hope lots of kids are studying robotics in school."

    Then he's pressed a bit, admits he doesn't' want to pay more than $10–$12 per hour, and doesn't see why he should pay more, and that's why he can't find his specialists. Yeah, by all means, let's get him some visas and some cheap labor.

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    Everyone can find horror stories, but remember "anecdote" isn't the singular form of "data".
    A study by the Brookings Institute asserts that visa workers actually make significantly more than their American peers in most categories.

    There's a guy in my office that's on a worker visa- if you mention any of the stuff being spouted in this thread around him you had better brace yourself to be set straight with a lengthy dissertation from him. Another guy in our office was complaining about the proposed H1-B expansion within earshot and it turned into a 20 minute lecture. I have no problem with people who come into the country legally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    Everyone can find horror stories, but remember "anecdote" isn't the singular form of "data".
    A study by the Brookings Institute asserts that visa workers actually make significantly more than their American peers in most categories.
    True for "high tech" work, basically US firms will do a lot to avoid hiring Americans and even pay decent wages to tempt foreign workers. Doesn't really apply to the helpdesk drones, airline pilots or the pizza guys, though.
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