Wealth distribution

[Fragony]

Ever heard about the labor conditions of the poorest who work for the rich in Asia and Africa? Are their human rights respected in the quest for ever-increasing profits?

Who make the stuff you buy? That is wrong of course, but you still support it with your wallet.

[Andres]

Who make the stuff you buy? That is wrong of course, but you still support it with your wallet.

Meh. As if we have much of a real choice?

[Fragony]

Meh. As if we have much of a real choice?

Sure you do, not with everything, but you could buy more responsible. If you buy something fron H&M you should know why it's cheap. Most of my clothes come from Italy or Denmark. I buy fair-trade products when I can. I avoid products from Asia and India. Kinda hypocrite to claim because I am posting this with an ipad, but I avoid it as much as I can.

[Ironside]

Sure you do, not with everything, but you could buy more responsible. If you buy something fron H&M you should know why it's cheap. Most of my clothes come from Italy or Denmark. I buy fair-trade products when I can. I avoid products from Asia and India. Kinda hypocrite to claim because I am posting this with an ipad, but I avoid it as much as I can.

Mafia supporter then? Italy got some significant issues with mafia (well technically Camorra) infiltration in the cloth industry. And the following mistreatment in the name of money.

[Fragony]

Mafia supporter then? Italy got some significant issues with mafia (well technically Camorra) infiltration in the cloth industry. And the following mistreatment in the name of money.

And here we have the penoza which is pretty much the same thing. What else can I do, I just avoid their stuff when I can. There is no meta-explanation to morality, I keep my own. Everybody is a hypocrite if they don't really give a shit about something, but are just having a cause. What's their cause really, being able to congratulate themselves on being oh so good. What else, they get a mental breakdown if they can't get their kids on a 99% white school (mandatory negroe) I am not going to jerk them off. I dispise them, all they want for themselves is what others should do. Company's make money. You don't have buy what they make. I don't buy it if I don't like what's behind it.

[drone]

If the world's wealth is being held by less people as time goes by, that just means fewer people to put up against the wall when the revolution comes. We are saving lives with our current economic system!

[Ironside]

And here we have the penoza which is pretty much the same thing. What else can I do, I just avoid their stuff when I can. There is no meta-explanation to morality, I keep my own. Everybody is a hypocrite if they don't really give a shit about something, but are just having a cause. What's their cause really, being able to congratulate themselves on being oh so good. What else, they get a mental breakdown if they can't get their kids on a 99% white school (mandatory negroe) I am not going to jerk them off. I dispise them, all they want for themselves is what others should do. Company's make money. You don't have buy what they make. I don't buy it if I don't like what's behind it.

I should've pointed it out in my original post. It had more to do with the problems of identifying that kind of crap when you're so isolated from the source, than any hypocracy accusation against you.

Voting with your vallet is very limited in many cases. And even doing your best contains traps.

[Fragony]

I should've pointed it out in my original post. It had more to do with the problems of identifying that kind of crap when you're so isolated from the source, than any hypocracy accusation against you.

Voting with your vallet is very limited in many cases. And even doing your best contains traps.

If there is any hypocracy flown against me that's ok, I allready know that I am a hypocrite. Do I really care, no I don't, it is not my power to change anything. I would if I could but I can't. So I am just flowing with the currents just like everybody else and I'll just have to see where I wash up. It could be at the riviera of Monaco or something less extraordinary. I am doing the best I can, what more is to be expected from me. I don't have all that much, even if I am pretty well off. You should be glad with what you have, what others have shouldn't matter.

[HoreTore]

Sure you do, not with everything, but you could buy more responsible. If you buy something fron H&M you should know why it's cheap. Most of my clothes come from Italy or Denmark. I buy fair-trade products when I can. I avoid products from Asia and India. Kinda hypocrite to claim because I am posting this with an ipad, but I avoid it as much as I can.

Denmark doesn't have a textile industry anymore. Danish clothes are designed in Denmark, but produced in Bangladesh.

Italian textiles are made by illegal immigrants(you know, those you want out) in sweatshops organized by the mob.

Have fun.

Oh, and:

I would if I could but I can't.

This is the exact statement you objected to 10 posts earlier. Try to read a little more carefully next time.

[Fragony]

I see no ambiguity, sorry. I am not responsible for the behaviour of other people, and in thus I don't need to defend anything. I wouldn't treat people as badly as some do but that some do that isn't my doing. I am just not buying their products, I wouldn't feel comfortable in these clothes so I don't buy them. Some of you must want me to be a bad person, trying to corner me in some immorality, but I got what I think is moral perfectly outlined for myself. Going to blame me for the existance of the gammora or the panoza, how exactly.

[HoreTore]

I see no ambiguity, sorry. I am not responsible for the behaviour of other people, and in thus I don't need to defend anything. I wouldn't treat people as badly as some do but that some do that isn't my doing. I am just not buying their products, I wouldn't feel comfortable in these clothes so I don't buy them. Some of you must want me to be a bad person, trying to corner me in some immorality, but I got what I think is moral perfectly outlined for myself. Going to blame me for the existance of the gammora or the panoza, how exactly.

I see no posts by others between your last post and this one, so I must assume it is directed at my post. So, my question to you, Frags, is simple:

.....how is your rant in any way relevant to what I wrote....?

[Fragony]

Mob mob mob

that's a whole lot of answer for a single point.

[Husar]

Who make the stuff you buy? That is wrong of course, but you still support it with your wallet.

How do you know?
I only buy fair food clothes.

[Fragony]

How do you know?
I only buy fair food clothes.

Mock it all you want, but the scumbags who let people work in poor conditions have a poor consumer in me. I am a humanist at heart, just a uncompromising one when it comes to other issues. Pay a little bit more, people should be payed properly for their labour. It's up to yourself what you buy, or don't buy. Pretty simple I'd say.