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    I credit Putin for not really caring about "fantasy news". No doubt he also has some connection to the Malaysia Airline disappearance, the Mayan Calender and the Bermuda Triangle.
    Like the fantasy news of that Russian journalists are killed by the dozen and Russia is one of the most dangerous countries for journalists in the world, and Putin doesn't seem to care?

    See, in the game of politics, you can do something about rumors without commenting on them directly. Your reputation affects what accusations and rumors that stick.
    We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    My favorite president (politics aside, of course) has some paintings that Putin ought to check out.

    George W Bush paintings on display http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-26890910


    Those are actually pretty cool and quite sharply observed.
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    I don't much care for Bush jr.
    It might not be him personally, but he headed (was figurehead) for the worst exploitation of the "politics of fear". I have no respect for that...ever.
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    I prefer Hitler's paintings, they also look better.

    http://www.socialphy.com/posts/art/8...Paintings.html

    Of course I also admire his intelligence, wit, humor and how he had this realistic self-image and stayed down-to-earth-genuine in his ways.
    Just too bad that he was later blamed for starting a war when he was merely trying to stem the tides as the head of a genuinely evil administration that really thought it was doing the right thing though...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    Hell, his dad was even cooler. Bush Sr. was everything from a ww2 fighter pilot to the architect of illegal and frankly immoral covert wars in South America as head of the CIA before being president.
    I thought 41 flew Avengers. Oh well, neither here nor there. He was the then youngest ever navy pilot; did head the CIA, also served as our inaugural ambassador to the PRC.
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    I think it was a Wild Cat (F4F), on show at the Museum at Washington DC.
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    Wiki says Seamus wins:

    After Bush's promotion to Lieutenant (junior grade) on August 1, 1944, the San Jacinto commenced operations against the Japanese in the Bonin Islands. Bush piloted one of four Grumman TBM Avenger aircraft from VT-51 that attacked the Japanese installations on Chichijima.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    I prefer Hitler's paintings, they also look better.

    http://www.socialphy.com/posts/art/8...Paintings.html
    ...vienna's fine arts academy rejected that? Jesus what did you need to do to get in, fully depict each ass hair of every rat in the gutters of a 30 ft square depiction of the entire florentine skyline?
    Of course I also admire his intelligence, wit, humor and how he had this realistic self-image and stayed down-to-earth-genuine in his ways.
    Just too bad that he was later blamed for starting a war when he was merely trying to stem the tides as the head of a genuinely evil administration that really thought it was doing the right thing though...
    Should have mentioned the drugs, nothing pushes up a hitler sympathy diatribe better than noting the coctail of mind altering drugs hitler's doctors used to keep him "healthy".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    ...vienna's fine arts academy rejected that? Jesus what did you need to do to get in, fully depict each ass hair of every rat in the gutters of a 30 ft square depiction of the entire florentine skyline?


    Should have mentioned the drugs, nothing pushes up a hitler sympathy diatribe better than noting the coctail of mind altering drugs hitler's doctors used to keep him "healthy".
    If I recall, they said he was technically competent, but lacking individual style - they felt his work was merely derivative. According to his grandchildren, he used to go on big rants about how rubbish the impressionist masters were.
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    "According to his grandchildren" You lost me here. Whose grand-children? Hitler's?
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    "According to his grandchildren" You lost me here. Whose grand-children? Hitler's?
    They lived in Brazil for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    ...vienna's fine arts academy rejected that? Jesus what did you need to do to get in, fully depict each ass hair of every rat in the gutters of a 30 ft square depiction of the entire florentine skyline?
    Take a look at the proportions(which is what an art academy cares about).
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Take a look at the proportions(which is what an art academy cares about).
    Art is definitely not my forte. What's so wrong with proportions?

    To me, they just look somehow lifeless.

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    Some of the art back that was really horribly done. I cannot name the piece, but I remember it being done around the early 1900s which is meant to be describing Urban life and it looks like it was drawn by a 8 year old. This is remembering from over 10 years ago in GCSE History.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Art is definitely not my forte. What's so wrong with proportions?

    To me, they just look somehow lifeless.
    Well, take a look at the building on the right on the third painting: the length between the windows and the roof decreases way too rapidly. There are problems with depth in all of those paintings.

    Nothing I would care much about, but it was a focus in arts academies of the day.

    That's not to say that he was rubbish, of course. There were loads more painters back then than we have now, all trying to get into these academies. It's comparable to the guitarists of today: most good guitarists will never become famous, there are simply too many good ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Well, take a look at the building on the right on the third painting: the length between the windows and the roof decreases way too rapidly. There are problems with depth in all of those paintings.

    Nothing I would care much about, but it was a focus in arts academies of the day.

    That's not to say that he was rubbish, of course. There were loads more painters back then than we have now, all trying to get into these academies. It's comparable to the guitarists of today: most good guitarists will never become famous, there are simply too many good ones.
    I think that's got more to do with the angle of the shadow, but I see your point...

    Thinking about Hitler and art academy always make me wonder if history of the world would be vastly different if he was accepted...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    I think that's got more to do with the angle of the shadow, but I see your point...
    I am far from an arts critic, but that was the answer I got when I asked one...
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    I would love to own one of Hitler's paintings and hang it up on my wall, then if somebody ever asks me about it I can say "oh that one? that's an Adolf Hitler".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuuvi View Post
    I would love to own one of Hitler's paintings and hang it up on my wall, then if somebody ever asks me about it I can say "oh that one? that's an Adolf Hitler".
    Apparently the affectation would cost you about 40k USD per painting, less for the tinted postcards. Wiki
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    Who is pat buchanan and why should I care?
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    Who is pat buchanan and why should I care?
    In short: Republican.
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    Who is pat buchanan and why should I care?
    He's the reason Bush got elected in 2000.
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    So now, according Pat Buchanan, the Kremlin is the new Vatican. But with amored divisions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    So now, according Pat Buchanan, the Kremlin is the new Vatican. But with amored divisions.
    It's like the 1920's US Commies all over again.
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    'The world was stunned when Russia invaded Crimea, but should it have been? Author and journalist Oliver Bullough says President Vladimir Putin never kept secret his intention to restore Russian power - what's less clear, he says, is how long the country's rise can continue.'

    The country isn't rising - its falling apart, seriously declining - economically, socially ... Putin's sabre rattling (and, indeed, sabre wielding) is a way of distracting the population from this fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaexz View Post
    In short: Republican.
    Is he the loonie-toon who's always ditched early in the primary, or is he the sane one who is always ditched early in the primary?

    EDIT: just clicked Fisherking's linky and read the title. "Putin vs. cultural marxism"..... It's the loonie toon, then.

    I lol'ed.
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    Buchanan’s last run for office was in 2000, running under the Reform Party against Bush and Gore.

    As a political party with only two elected official (of unknown province) I would say it is pretty dead.

    Buchanan is a staunch social conservative, and many would say anti-Semitist, pretty much to the right of anyone you know.


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    Nader siphoned off more votes in Florida than the balloting issues with Buchanan did. And you can bet that all of the Green Party votes would NOT have voted GOP. Buchanan, other than the balloting snafu in Broward County, was siphoning away GOP votes. Blame Nader and Gore for losing to a VERY beatable W in 2000. Virtually ANY Dem who wasn't a cigar-store wooden Indian like Gore could have taken W by a point and a half.

    Buchanan is not much of an anti-Semite, but he certainly doesn't believe in bending over backwards for Israel. He's an out-and-out protectionist with a fairly strong leaning towards isolationism -- and yes a big-time social conservative as well. Had he been put in office, we'd have been drawing US armed forces back to CONUS and the mid Pacific as fast as he could get modified treaties in place with our Allies.
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    Pat Buchanan is a worthless fascist, not surprising he would come to the defense of another worthless fascist.

    I can't even take Putins propagandized tripe seriously. The decadent west?

    What does he have to say for the half human mongoloids he leads? Beat up some fags, beat up some women, beat up some brown people, die at 38 from chrisos of the liver.

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