Speaking of Israel...

[a completely inoffensive name]

This forum always depresses the shit out of me. I remember the Iraq war threads and the Afghan war threads. All the dehumanising of the enemy. The callousness and casual uninterest in civilian death. The blithe faith that the established media truth and the actions and decisions of our leaders were the natural and best course of action.

Iraq you have a point because the Iraqi's were innocent bystanders caught up in US foreign policy. This conflict between the Palestinians and Israeli's is perpetuated wholeheartedly by both sides. Decades of peace talks have only resulted in bribing Egypt and Israel with millions of foreign aid. If anyone really had such a bleeding heart over deaths in the Gaza, they would advocate for total withdraw of foreign aid and presence in the region and let either the Arab states or Israel fight until total hegemony is established by one side or the other.