Weird case at our southern neighbours

**I of the Storm** · 01-04-2015, 13:52

Fine with me. He's not the first "unusual" euthanasia case in Belgium.
The actual outrage IMO is the fact that he's been in prison for 30 years and no one cared to try a therapy. Plain wrong.
While pedophilia is de jure a crime, it's a disorder in the first place. Therefore therapy is applicable. Whether that will be successful is a different question.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 01-05-2015, 11:13

I read about this.

I suppose the question is does this serve justice?

This man was given a whole life sentence for rape and murder, allowing him to end his life in effect shortens his sentence and reduces his punishment. Treatment in this case is a Victorians concept, it doesn't work, you can't treat these people.

Once someone like this becomes a danger to society you can only lock them up for their natural life.

I have a problem with shortening that natural life from a justice perspective.

**Montmorency** · 01-05-2015, 19:58

PVC, that basically only works if you see the point of the prison system as an institution for extracting suffering from its inmates.

Such a system is a costly distraction from the perspective of good policy, and is certainly not in accord with Christian "justice" anyway.

Treatment in this case is a Victorians concept, it doesn't work, you can't treat these people.

Well, I do at least agree that Victorian-era treatments wouldn't be very helpful...

**Husar** · 01-05-2015, 20:13

So basically they have an untreatable condition and if they should ever make the mistake to give in to that (given that it's supposedly untreatable, that can only be a matter of time), we should punish them as harshly as possible for having that untreatable condition in the first place? While we're at it, why don't we just euthanize them at birth once we have found a way to detect the condition early? Because that would ease the suffering that they deserve for the inevitable crimes they will commit in the future?

**Greyblades** · 01-05-2015, 22:26

Originally Posted by Husar

So basically they have an untreatable condition and if they should ever make the mistake to give in to that (given that it's supposedly untreatable, that can only be a matter of time), we should punish them as harshly as possible for having that untreatable condition in the first place? While we're at it, why don't we just euthanize them at birth once we have found a way to detect the condition early? Because that would ease the suffering that they deserve for the inevitable crimes they will commit in the future?

Why would we euthanize them post birth? If we could find out a person is a psychopath or a paedophile through methods that doent require verbal communication we could probably find out at the "still able to abort without all but the diehardest fundies complaining" stage.

**Husar** · 01-05-2015, 22:30

Originally Posted by Greyblades

Why would we euthanize them post birth? If we could find out a person is a psychopath or a paedophile through methods that doent require verbal communication we could probably find out at the "still able to abort without all but the diehardest fundies complaining" stage.

I meant at or before, don't worry, I also support pre-crime.

**Greyblades** · 01-05-2015, 22:47

Eh, crime's a choice, this is genetics. I'd rather they found a way to change it same as all other birth defects, but I'm pro choice and this would be one of the most legitimate reasons to abort.

**Fragony** · 01-05-2015, 20:26

Should be miisundersting when the parents kill him theirselve. I ssee no reason why I should be really. I will absolirly kill you if you if you do that to those I love. I see nothing wrong in that.