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    One of the under-spoken things about US politics is the existence of a quasi-aristocracy. It is not completely exclusive and in no way as "insular" as the aristocracies of Europe, but in politics the age of your money does seem to make a difference....

    For example, were Jeb to be elected, he would be the 9th Mayflower family descendent to hold the Presidency -- out of 44 persons who will have held the office as of January 2017 (Yes, I am aware that Obama is the 44th POTUS, but trivia buffs will remember that Cleveland served in two separate presidencies in the late 1800s).

    So, if you tend to see familiar names cropping up, it may be less surprising than one might hope.
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    Quick detour to the influence of money in the latest POTUS test.
    Is Jeb simply keeping his powder dry in order to better direct the PAC's lending him support?:

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...he_future.html

    Overall, since Citizens United has the influence of wealth increased?:

    http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dru...ampaign-giving

    hmmm...
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    So Bernie Sanders will be throwing his hat into the ring. Should be interesting. Most likely wont win the nomination, but at least he will challenge Hillary.
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    I wish someone sensible like Bill Gates would run, but he is probably too sensible.
    Maybe Tom Cruise will run one day because he just knows he can win.


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    Im rather excited to see someone who calls himself a socialist running for president. The smear campaigns should get interesting.
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    Maybe Tom Cruise will run one day because he just knows he can win.
    He'd never take the job, there arent enough sofas or closets in the whitehouse.
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    Bernie Sanders will get his reputation ruined because of this, Clinton will give the Republicans fodder as she tries to counter the criticism that Bernie gives her. Now instead of cultivating support, she has to defend herself as a liberal and expose herself to Republican jabs when it comes time for the general election. Meanwhile, the Republicans wont have as big of a shit show as the last two elections, so instead of everyone looking like a fool, the Republican winner will come out stronger for it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Maybe Tom Cruise will run one day because he just knows he can win.
    Mission impossible.
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    Bernie Sanders will get his reputation ruined because of this, Clinton will give the Republicans fodder as she tries to counter the criticism that Bernie gives her. Now instead of cultivating support, she has to defend herself as a liberal and expose herself to Republican jabs when it comes time for the general election. Meanwhile, the Republicans wont have as big of a shit show as the last two elections, so instead of everyone looking like a fool, the Republican winner will come out stronger for it.
    Why wouldn't it be the exact opposite?

    Also, I seriously doubt Bernie Sanders cares about his reputation in national politics when it comes to this...
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    I don’t see any reason to take any of the candidates seriously. The media will trash anyone they view as a threat to Hillary and she need do nothing except continue to tell her lies. The Republican Candidate that emerges will be the one most easily defeated and everything will continue on track.
    Should the Republican win it still would make little difference as they will be beholden to the same people as the Democrat and the same special interests (Banks and Mega-corporations) will still get everything they want.

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    Scott Walker...next POTUS...true story...
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    I'm a little surprised at Sanders rising to the occasion. I thought he might lie low for the same reason as Warren; not to expose the real divisions in the Democratic party.
    It could nudge policy closer to the center; I consider all present American hopefuls as simply different shades of right-wing policy hucksters.
    As Fisherking points out, the big surprise would be anything that does not cave to the Banks and Mega-corporations
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    http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/eve...ate-1787121521

    No one thinks he won except horserace journalists. Worst debate performance I've ever seen, and short of calling Hillary the B or C word or body slamming her, the worst that could possibly be given.

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