IMMIGRATION thread

[Pannonian]

As I said -

1) It was safe - Are expecting adult Syrian males to let their their wives and children deal with smugglers, officials, harsh conditions, camps, carry money for smugglers, transportation and corrupt officials, potentially wait months in winter, track back and do it all over again if a border is closed etc, etc... ALONE? Would you let your wife and child do that?

2) 2) It was state sponsored/organized - the transportation was SAFE and where they were going was SAFE(r). During transportation and upon arrival, all basic necessities were provided. There was no danger that a particular village would close its borders and leave everyone stranded. It was the same country, same rules, same language.

3) It wasn't a civil war - there was an organized national effort with a very clear goal and state could provide protection for those who left.

If they're that fiddly about evacuation from a dangerous location, perhaps they should find somewhere else more welcoming.

[Sarmatian]

If they're that fiddly about evacuation from a dangerous location, perhaps they should find somewhere else more welcoming.

They're looking for long term stability and potential to give their families both life and survival. That's not too much to ask for after what they've been through, I'd reckon.

[Greyblades]

Where is Greyblades when you need him? Are men not deserving of help? Why?

Careful with that strawman; you'll put your eye out.

Not a bigot, a petty little bigot.

A glorified spoiled brat, with some malicious thoughts and delusions of grandeur. Fragony is a bigot. You'd have to improve to become one.

I see.

You are incapable of defending your point and thus you resort to accusations of intolerance in an attempt to stigmatize your opponent.

Sadly at this point I have come to expect this of you.

[Sarmatian]

I see.

You are incapable of defending your point and thus you resort to accusations of intolerance in an attempt to stigmatize your opponent.

Sadly at this point I have come to expect this of you.

You nailed it.

Except that I wasn't making a point but expressing hope for a particular "taste of your own medicine" kind of scenario. And I didn't stigmatize you, you did that yourself. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... You know the ending.

So, besides everything you've said, you're correct.