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    The means are there, the will less so, but it will come.

    Parliament is in a panic and are trying to weasel thier way out of the referendum, turning on eachother in a flurry of betrayal and blame. But I know it cannot last, for there is near guarenteed 10+ million votes up for grabs for the men who stand up and say "I will try to make this work" and a position as one of the top Prime Ministers in history for the man who does the deed. If the current crop of politicians wont discard thier old dreams of european integration and take the opportunity in front of them they will be swept out by those who will at the next elections.

    Maybe I am being optimistic, but I believe it will happen because all signs point to the people being goddamn sick to death of the kick-the-can politics of the last two decades.

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    This thread needs some reggae...

    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    And in latest news, Iceland also supports Brexit.

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    One imagines Norway will support it too.

    if the UK rejoins the EFTA then that block suddenly has much more punch. If the UK makes a go of it you may well see Swexit followed by Dexit (Danexit?) and then you could see two trading blocks, a "core" EU and an EFTA that trades in the same market but pays less into the budget and doesn't partake in the Quasi Federalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    One imagines Norway will support it too.

    if the UK rejoins the EFTA then that block suddenly has much more punch. If the UK makes a go of it you may well see Swexit followed by Dexit (Danexit?) and then you could see two trading blocks, a "core" EU and an EFTA that trades in the same market but pays less into the budget and doesn't partake in the Quasi Federalism.
    Yeah, right. Basically, at this point you guys should be happy if you keep United in the title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Yeah, right. Basically, at this point you guys should be happy if you keep United in the title.
    I offer one possible scenario.

    At this point Scottish Independence is inevitable, it's a question of when - not if - and that's been true since the Scottish Parliament was created. It's the logical Conclusion of a process begun more than a century ago when we began granting Self Rule to the Colonies and making them into Dominions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Yeah, right. Basically, at this point you guys should be happy if you keep United in the title.
    I prefer London City, or South East United. Dunno what colours to wear though. Whatever happens though, England are rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    As such, if London leaves, it will no longer act like a magnet, thus it would give rise to growth and prosperity to other cities such as Manchester, Edinburgh, etc.
    Even if London doesn't leave, Edinburgh is likely to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Yeah, right. Basically, at this point you guys should be happy if you keep United in the title.
    I wonder whether it will still be GREAT Britain or will they change that title as well?


    Meanwhile, bigotry is gathering momentum:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7104191.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    I wonder whether it will still be GREAT Britain or will they changed that title as well?
    I propose North Britain and South Britain. The North can then worship Farage as the eternal great leader and begin to build a dynasty. His followers will be called Il Farage and Un Farage. Remain voters will be sent to Labour Camps (pun intended) for the glory of the Working Peoples' Republic of North Britannia.

    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    [...]part of the ETFA.
    The European Trade-Free Area? (no offense intended)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    And in latest news, Iceland also supports Brexit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    One imagines Norway will support it too.

    if the UK rejoins the EFTA then that block suddenly has much more punch. If the UK makes a go of it you may well see Swexit followed by Dexit (Danexit?) and then you could see two trading blocks, a "core" EU and an EFTA that trades in the same market but pays less into the budget and doesn't partake in the Quasi Federalism.
    *Whoosh*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    *Whoosh*

    "Seems we're desperate to get out of Europe in all ways." - Gary Lineker (on twitter)
    Oh, that was a football reference, wasn't it?

    See - I thought Sarmation had read something I hadn't and was making a serious contribution because Iceland, like Norwary, is part of the ETFA.

    Silly me.
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