Brexit Thread

[Husar]

I wonder whether it will still be GREAT Britain or will they changed that title as well?

I propose North Britain and South Britain. The North can then worship Farage as the eternal great leader and begin to build a dynasty. His followers will be called Il Farage and Un Farage. Remain voters will be sent to Labour Camps (pun intended) for the glory of the Working Peoples' Republic of North Britannia.

[...]part of the ETFA.

The European Trade-Free Area? (no offense intended)

[InsaneApache]

Will anyone join me in sending a petition to Parliament to insist on replaying last night’s match and refusing to accept any result where the winning team scores fewer than 4 goals and is not leading by at least 2 goals at the final whistle?

According to the BBC and the Guardian the Icelanders are beginning to regret winning and, had they known the full facts before the match, would have given England a 2-goal start.

Some good news at last.

The thick tongued twat Jamie Oliver will leave the UK if Boris becomes PM. I'll personally ring a taxi for him.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...PM-Brexit.html

[Husar]

Someone from Leave should rather ask for a referendum to make the referendum legally binding because otherwise this Brexit thing will have to wait until enough MPs support it or may never go through if such MPs are not elected into office anyway.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7105181.html

Mr Robertson said there had been "a lot of stupid statements" suggesting Britain could simply send a note to the EU to trigger "Article 50" of the Lisbon Treaty, which lays out the process under which states can leave. The article itself says a state can only leave in accordance with "its own constitutional requirements".

"Our most fundamental constitutional requirement is that the decision must be taken by parliament. It will require a bill," he said.

"In November, the situation may have totally changed. According to polls, a million vote leavers appear to have changed their mind, that could be five million by the November."

I mean, I've said it before, but now you have an article to go with it.

[AntiDamascus]

It would be funny to see the dog catch the car, not know what to do with it and end up letting it go in shock.
I'm pretty sure these guys don't want to do anything because now they'll actually have to lead and try to solve problems and find out it's tough to do. This whole thing was meant to be a show on everyone's side. This was designed to be a topic to be talked about and used as a tool to gather votes and such, not to actually be passed. It's like the repeal of the ACA, it's more worth their time to yell about it than actually try to replace it because that's hard and then they can't blame anyone else but themselves.

[Pannonian]

It would be funny to see the dog catch the car, not know what to do with it and end up letting it go in shock.
I'm pretty sure these guys don't want to do anything because now they'll actually have to lead and try to solve problems and find out it's tough to do. This whole thing was meant to be a show on everyone's side. This was designed to be a topic to be talked about and used as a tool to gather votes and such, not to actually be passed. It's like the repeal of the ACA, it's more worth their time to yell about it than actually try to replace it because that's hard and then they can't blame anyone else but themselves.

Take back control

[CrossLOPER]

This is dumb. Just give your country back to France. Or Italy. Or Denmark. You don't know what you're doing.

[Greyblades]

"fine leave" "you cant leave" "You wont leave" "you're stupid for leaving" "you're stupid for thinking we care" "leave already" "you'll never leave" "you cant survive without me!"


Christ you're like a jilted lovers.

[Sarmatian]

It would be funny to see the dog catch the car, not know what to do with it and end up letting it go in shock.
I'm pretty sure these guys don't want to do anything because now they'll actually have to lead and try to solve problems and find out it's tough to do. This whole thing was meant to be a show on everyone's side. This was designed to be a topic to be talked about and used as a tool to gather votes and such, not to actually be passed. It's like the repeal of the ACA, it's more worth their time to yell about it than actually try to replace it because that's hard and then they can't blame anyone else but themselves.

That's the funniest part. Most of the politicians who supported or courted with Brexit idea, did it out of the populist reasons, never expecting it will actually happen.

For years they've been spewing populist bollox about uniqueness of Britain, Brussels oppression, lack of democracy, economic slowdown... And now they're actually surprised people bought it. Kinda like American conservatives with Trump. Suddenly everyone is surprised.

As the saying goes, you made your bed...

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

It would be funny to see the dog catch the car, not know what to do with it and end up letting it go in shock.
I'm pretty sure these guys don't want to do anything because now they'll actually have to lead and try to solve problems and find out it's tough to do. This whole thing was meant to be a show on everyone's side. This was designed to be a topic to be talked about and used as a tool to gather votes and such, not to actually be passed. It's like the repeal of the ACA, it's more worth their time to yell about it than actually try to replace it because that's hard and then they can't blame anyone else but themselves.

Bold for emphasis - this is why some of us wanted to leave.

You have effectively admitted that you think the EU prevents National Politicians from leading the countries they are purported to govern.

For some of us, nothing is more important than Democracy.

The Population continues to strain against the "progress" made in the "EU Project", the UK Referendum is not the only negative result for the EU, the French and Dutch had Referenda on the EU Constitution and voted it down, the Irish voted down the Lisbon treaty before the financial crash.

The British were denied a vote on that Treaty, which is why it was ratified - though I imagine many other countries would have killed it too in a Plebiscite.

The EU's politicians don't trust their voters though, so they're forcing them into a political union which is palpably against their will.

The people in the UK are so opposed to this that it has poisoned our political life for decades. Cameron sought to put the issue to bed with the Referendum but do to his inability to negotiate any real concessions from Europe along with general distrust and, finally, the intervention of many European politicians and Institutions telling the British they were foolish to consider Brexit... it happened.

This is the Democratic Backlash from the Democratic Deficit - the EU has two choices, loosen its grip or watch the Union unravel. This is only now dawning on French and German politicians after their hard headedness forced the British out.

[Strike For The South]

Im going to laugh when they don't leave. God, that day will be so satisfying. I may even take a personal day, to bask in it all.

[Greyblades]

This is the Democratic Backlash from the Democratic Deficit - the EU has two choices, loosen its grip or watch the Union unravel. This is only now dawning on French and German politicians after their hard headedness forced the British out.

Assuming this is real, they chose unravel:

European SUPERSTATE to be unveiled: EU nations 'to be morphed into one' post-Brexit

EUROPEAN political chiefs are to take advantage of Brexit by unveiling their long-held plan to morph the continent’s countries into one GIANT SUPERSTATE, it has emerged yesterday.

The foreign ministers of France and Germany are due to reveal a blueprint to effectively do away with individual member states in what is being described as an “ultimatum”.

Under the radical proposals EU countries will lose the right to have their own army, criminal law, taxation system or central bank, with all those powers being transferred to Brussels.

Controversially member states would also lose what few controls they have left over their own borders, including the procedure for admitting and relocating refugees.

The plot has sparked fury and panic in Poland - a traditional ally of Britain in the fight against federalism - after being leaked to Polish news channel TVP Info.

9 pages of the "ultimatum" in english can be found here, scroll down:

http://www.tvp.info/25939587/europej...nalny-dokument

Reading the pages, while covered in euphamism and the occasional hyperbole the express article is correct in that this is a push for further integration. A multinational border and coastguard, sharing the fiscal and human burden of the migrants among the nations, a European monetary fund, it seems clear that the EU isnt backing off on what pushed Britain out.

[Pannonian]

Bold for emphasis - this is why some of us wanted to leave.

You have effectively admitted that you think the EU prevents National Politicians from leading the countries they are purported to govern.

For some of us, nothing is more important than Democracy.

According to the articles I've linked to already, maintenance of current levels of funding, by Westminster replacing that which will be lost from the EU, will be just as important. I'd like the south east to break away and leave the regions to their own devices. London in particular clearly has a different worldview from most of the rest of England.

[InsaneApache]

Christ-on-a-bike.

For the final time this isn't about money.

It's about democracy.

Something you seem to have a feeble grasp of.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

According to the articles I've linked to already, maintenance of current levels of funding, by Westminster replacing that which will be lost from the EU, will be just as important. I'd like the south east to break away and leave the regions to their own devices. London in particular clearly has a different worldview from most of the rest of England.

That's much less important to me than Democracy - it's not why I voted, and I live and grew up in one of the areas affected.

That area will also be affected by no longer being subject to EU rules on farming and fishing. We will be able to set our own quotas and cut our hedges at the correct time of year for Britain, not France or Germany.

[Papewaio]

Bold for emphasis - this is why some of us wanted to leave.

You have effectively admitted that you think the EU prevents National Politicians from leading the countries they are purported to govern.

For some of us, nothing is more important than Democracy.

The Population continues to strain against the "progress" made in the "EU Project", the UK Referendum is not the only negative result for the EU, the French and Dutch had Referenda on the EU Constitution and voted it down, the Irish voted down the Lisbon treaty before the financial crash.

The British were denied a vote on that Treaty, which is why it was ratified - though I imagine many other countries would have killed it too in a Plebiscite.

The EU's politicians don't trust their voters though, so they're forcing them into a political union which is palpably against their will.

The people in the UK are so opposed to this that it has poisoned our political life for decades. Cameron sought to put the issue to bed with the Referendum but do to his inability to negotiate any real concessions from Europe along with general distrust and, finally, the intervention of many European politicians and Institutions telling the British they were foolish to consider Brexit... it happened.

This is the Democratic Backlash from the Democratic Deficit - the EU has two choices, loosen its grip or watch the Union unravel. This is only now dawning on French and German politicians after their hard headedness forced the British out.

tl:dr "The more you tighten your grip, the more countries will slip through your fingers."

Thank you your Worshipfulness

[CrossLOPER]

The EU's politicians don't trust their voters though

That's because the voters are braindead.