Climate Change Thread

**drone** · 11-04-2016, 21:00

When fitting LED lights, the key is the color temperature. The first LED bulbs were higher temperature bulbs, which gave them a (ironically) cold, bright feel. This is no longer an issue. Most LEDs should have the color temp on the package, look for ones in the 2500-3000 K range.

**Seamus Fermanagh** · 11-04-2016, 22:14

Originally Posted by drone

When fitting LED lights, the key is the color temperature. The first LED bulbs were higher temperature bulbs, which gave them a (ironically) cold, bright feel. This is no longer an issue. Most LEDs should have the color temp on the package, look for ones in the 2500-3000 K range.

They have gotten better.

**Montmorency** · 11-04-2016, 23:55

Concur. I have three incandescent lamps in my office and leave the sickly flourescents OFF whenever possible.

I don't think I've had incandescents in my home since I was quite young. Actually, I suppose I still do; my old nightlight might be around somewhere.

They're still the majority in private settings, but current figures indicate they more-or-less no longer exist in commercial or industrial settings (in the OECD world).

More interestingly, outside the OECD world kerosene plus CFL beats out incandescent.

Kerosene!

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 11-05-2016, 19:25

My house is wired with a central ceiling mount (it's not uniquely Ukrainians) and Fluorescent bulbs always leave the room dark and shadowy. I have a halogen lamp on desk, another fluorescent lamp above it (that I never use) and an incandescent by my bed. The Incandescent, despite being in the corner, light the room almost as well and the fluorescent on the ceiling.

I'll grant you they're better, but they're still crap.

**Tuuvi** · 11-06-2016, 03:31

Originally Posted by Montmorency

I don't think I've had incandescents in my home since I was quite young. Actually, I suppose I still do; my old nightlight might be around somewhere.

They're still the majority in private settings, but current figures indicate they more-or-less no longer exist in commercial or industrial settings (in the OECD world).

More interestingly, outside the OECD world kerosene plus CFL beats out incandescent.

Kerosene!

My friend's aunt who lives on the Navajo reservation used to use kerosene to light her home because she didn't have electricity. I was pretty surprised to learn people still use kerosene for anything other than camping in the US.

**Seamus Fermanagh** · 11-07-2016, 05:19

Originally Posted by Tuuvi

My friend's aunt who lives on the Navajo reservation used to use kerosene to light her home because she didn't have electricity. I was pretty surprised to learn people still use kerosene for anything other than camping in the US.

That is pretty rare, but more likely in poor areas such as the larger reservations. We also lose homes and families every year to people using kerosene heaters indoors without proper ventilation. Not common, but still happens.