Russian Ambassador Murdered in Turkey

**Strike For The South** · 12-19-2016, 22:41

5-1 odds it was Putin.

**drone** · 12-20-2016, 20:47

It will be entertaining to watch the hoop-jumping performed by the Turkish government to tie the assassin to Gülen.

**Kralizec** · 12-20-2016, 23:48

R.I.P. ambassador Karlov.

I don't think it will derail the talks about Syria, or have any serious diplomatic repurcussions. Both countries are run by jingoist dicks. When Turkey shot down the Russian plane it was to be expected that they would both stand their ground verbally, if only to avoid losing face. If this attack has any effect at all on the diplomatic level, I would think that Turkey would actually be willing to cooperate more with Russia out of embarassment. To Putin, the loss of one ambassador is probably just a passing inconvenience.

**Sarmatian** · 12-21-2016, 00:04

Originally Posted by Kralizec

To Putin, the loss of one ambassador is probably just a passing inconvenience.

While decent western politicians would undergo a cleansing ritual, shave all the hair from their body and spend the next two decades in a Tibetan monastery?

What was even the point of saying that?

**Kralizec** · 12-21-2016, 00:17

Be cynical if you want. In western countries the opposition would hound the government for their failure to protect their diplomatic staff, because that's what the opposition does even if it's not fair. In Russia the opposition....har, har

**Gilrandir** · 12-21-2016, 07:22

Originally Posted by Kralizec

I don't think it will derail the talks about Syria, or have any serious diplomatic repurcussions. Both countries are run by jingoist dicks. When Turkey shot down the Russian plane it was to be expected that they would both stand their ground verbally, if only to avoid losing face.

In plane shooting accident it was clear that the Turkish top military officials (and even Erdogan himself) were implicated. Hence the rift that happened (albeit mended quite soon). In the case of assassination no such implication is evident, so all what Turkey can be charged with is security negligence.