Trump Thread

[Greyblades]

On a third term for Obama, while he was more popular towards the end than Greyblades makes out, it's hard to see us breaking the 2-term tradition for Obama's sake. Then of course you realize that you would need an overwhelming movement for a Constitutional amendment or repeal (of the 22nd amendment) to even have the opportunity to elect someone to a third term, so in a circular sense if Obama had somehow managed to convince the country and Congress to take that course, and with time to spare for ratification by 2016, he would have been popular enough to run for a third term.

To run, but not win.

Despite assertations of a scandal free presidency the man had accumilated legitimate baggage, even putting aside obamacare and the benghazi incident (of which a legitimate criticism was pounded into the dust by overzealous republicans); Operation Fast and Furious was continued and intensified under his watch, his IRS targeted conservative non profits during 2012, he engaged in the politics as usual he promised to end with his role in the government shutdown, he was responsible for the the drone killing of americans without trial, he turned lybia into a second somalia, tried to do the same to syria, he traded 5 taliban leaders just to secure the return of a US deserter, he sued the state of arizona for following an anti immigration law it's people had voted for, his intrusion of privacy grew to the point it inspired defections in the NSA and the leaks damaged US diplomacy worse than even trump has achieved, he increased the debt to 20 trillion and pushed it past the national GDP, oversaw a period of less economic growth than that of every other president in the last half century.

This is not considering the callouts he set himself up for: "I'll close guantanamo bay", "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor”, "We've excluded lobbyists from policymaking jobs", "I Have Always Been Against Iraq", "Nearly one in five women in america have been a victim of rape or attempted rape"; the man was no less a liar than the best of capitol hill and trump would have had about as much material on Obama to work with as clinton, if not more.

I point to the gallup polls of presidential approval; throughout the entirety of 2015 it was a steady mid 40 and only began to climb in 2016, when the lacklustre of the candidates started to become truly apparant.

I contend that such approval would not have manifested if it was him who got down in the mud instead of clinton, his shining record now is only due to being allowed to retreat behind the bluster.

White Nationalism is now in vogue with Trump in office.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/u...=top-news&_r=0

Well if we take that metric we can say black nationalism was downright chic even before Obama took his.
http://www.wnd.com/2010/05/155653/

As the popularization of communists bolsters fascists; black identitarianism has bolstered white.

To denounce one and ignore or excuse the other is to encourage both, the best course of action is to let both extremes feel the truncheon with equal enthusiasm.