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    The Russian intel-sharing idiocy is a intel/diplomatic snafu, but it's not going to have the impact of Trump firing his FBI director after he tried to lean on him to end an investigation (should the reports prove true).

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    Comey was in the Oval Office briefing the President along with the vice president and attorney general on February 14, according to a source close to Comey who has a copy of the memo. After the briefing, Trump "asked Sessions and Pence to leave," the source told CNN.
    According to a memo, Comey wrote about the encounter and shared with confidantes, the President said: "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go."
    He told Comey that Flynn hadn't done anything wrong.
    Comey was "concerned" that the President was trying to "stop the investigation," the source told CNN. "He wrote a number of memos, a great many if not all were about contacts with Trump -- particularly the ones that made him feel uneasy."
    Again, if these memos do exist and Comey testifies before Congress that Trump, after making Sessions and Pence leave the room, leaned on him to let Flynn off the hook... we might be looking at President Pence soon.

    If the memos aren't produced and Comey doesn't testify in support of the allegations... then it's just your standard Trump scandal nothing-burger. We'll see.
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    They are overreaching, even if a memo emerges they cannot actually turn this into an intimidation charge as the wording alone is not indicative of it; you could just as easily say it was an honest plea for comey to stop wasting thier time, which Trump is well within the law to do and without any account from an unbiased source noone can say it was otherwise.
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    He asked so it's not obstruction. I forget about that loophole

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    They are overreaching, even if a memo emerges they cannot actually turn this into an intimidation charge as the wording alone is not indicative of it; you could just as easily say it was an honest plea for comey to stop wasting thier time, which Trump is well within the law to do and without any account from an unbiased source noone can say it was otherwise.
    Whether or not Trump thinks the investigation is a waste of time asking the head of the FBI to stop an investigation of the former head of national security for his ties with our number one geo-political enemy since the end of WWII is obstruction, "nice guy" or not. The only one overreaching is Trump and the unbiased source is the man he just fired and complemented for being so 'brave' in his Hillary emails announcement despite working for Obama at the time.

    Unfortunately until the readers of FoxNews and Breitbart see the truth that Trump is a embarrassing buffoon who's doing more to harm the interests of America instead of making it 'great again' their respective representatives won't see a threat to their reelection next year and opt to do little to nothing hoping it'll blow over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spmetla View Post
    Whether or not Trump thinks the investigation is a waste of time asking the head of the FBI to stop an investigation of the former head of national security for his ties with our number one geo-political enemy since the end of WWII is obstruction, "nice guy" or not.
    The 1980s called, and they want their foreign policy back.


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    I was never a fan of Obama or his wimpy foreign policy but certainly prefer it to our current foreign policy of sheer incompetence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spmetla View Post
    I was never a fan of Obama or his wimpy foreign policy but certainly prefer it to our current foreign policy of sheer incompetence.
    Just wait until next week's trip to the middle east. Who knew the Israeli-Palestinian conflict could be so hard to resolve?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
    Just wait until next week's trip to the middle east. Who knew the Israeli-Palestinian conflict could be so hard to resolve?
    His methods are like the opinions of my non-current events following friends, to them it's too easy to fix things. "Why don't they just do..." or "this could be fixed if so and so didn't just ...."
    Needless to say these are my friends that also tend to doubt the moon landing, think 9/11 was an inside job, and are sure that vaccines and fluoride are socialist plots against us. Great to hand out with, work on cars or help on bigger projects on my farm but not ones to discuss books or news with.

    Wonder if his son in law and daughter can prod him to not say anything too crazy though at this point I don't think that's possible. Anyone who can rail against china his whole campaign and then after a 10 minute conversation with their president be swayed to their opinion won't fair well in the muddle of the middle east.

    Funny how he loves saying how he's working harder than any president before him, thing is he probably believes it. I'm certain that this is the hardest he's ever had to work in his life except that this time he can't wrap himself in a bubble of yes-men that his quality of work is the greatest. So many meetings and complex issues he probably never considered possible, far more difficult and complex than just a line of businesses using the branding of his hotel/casino chain and now failure/bankruptcy isn't really an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Why are you dying on this hill? Of all them men to defend, you choose the one setting fire to our institutions.
    I'll defend Trump if he's in the right.... He just often isn't.

    As for setting fire to our institutions, I think that's a bit hyperbolic. An incompetent like Trump is more likely to set his own hair on fire. The only "good move" of Trump's that I can readily point to was nominating Gorsuch to the SCOTUS.



    Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
    Just wait until next week's trip to the middle east. Who knew the Israeli-Palestinian conflict could be so hard to resolve?
    Trump is grandiose, even in his self-pity.
    "He’s a rich kid turned billionaire playboy turned president whining about how unfair life is"
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