Trump Thread

[Montmorency]

But if it was Hilary or Obama, they would be rioting. They accused Obama of 'palling with terrorists' whilst he is the one who ordered the hit on Osama.

IMHO the bigger problem with this incident was Trump cancelling peace negotiations that were nearing finalization, out of pique. Not the decision to hold them or continue them or the location or time of formalization. Of course, once again Trump's handling makes America look stupid and hostile while conferring legitimacy to our adversaries.

Hopefully it's like his usual pattern of blowing up talks then coming back weeks later with concessions. Get it done.

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I'm not joking about the pattern. It's not just North Korea or NAFTA. Trump is now at the stage of trying to buy back Iran's compliance with a pact Trump himself caused the United States to violate.

Is he literally just doing this for all our foreign policy, instigating a crisis and then walking it back having permanently weakened our diplomatic and economic position? Are there any counterexamples?

His 'base' love him for his tone-deaf, combative, 'I am the leader' attitude -- but even most of them would admit he isn't the most glib or sensitive of communicators.

One article suggested that Trump reneged after becoming upset that he wouldn't be perceived as having 'sealed the deal' (professional diplomats worked it out over months and years behind the scenes). But I haven't found confirmation so don't hold me to that.


Well beyond the Iraq War Bolton had a reputation as a wrecker. What are your reasons for disliking Bolton, Seamus? I doubt ours don't overlap significantly.

Other than that, in case anyone wants to give credit to Trump for once again being the foreign policy version of the man who killed Hitler, here is Trump's own perspective on Bolton's role:

In fact, my views on Venezuela, and especially Cuba, were far stronger than those of John Bolton. He was holding me back!

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