Short break before continuing.
Short break before continuing.
Read Cuth ISO and feel relatively good about it. I don't have any particular posts to point out, but overall doesn't seem very agenda-y and seems to voice his opinions.
Manasi:
I don't like this post. Idk if it's a joke, but if true I really don't like it. She also voted me towards EOD and made no comment I think to what I posted, but moved her vote rather late to DP101. I don't like that she had no further opinion of me stated at all. Scum lean.
Crimson is very much pushing a wifom read of himself. I don't know why he would do that. His first page and a half of ISO seems oddly self centered, advocating a cop check of himself and teasing about hoping he's not the GF etc. There's a lot of "Read me like this" "Don't read me like this" which to me is strange as any alignment, but for him to keep the focus so very much on himself as scum is probably not a thing that happens. Then again it's very scummy to be very self aware, so ugh.
Said he'd be back before EOD, didn't post again until middle of the Night phase.
I'm at null here very much.
Too lazy to read Pizza, Csargo and DP ISO, at least right now.
TL:DR
Askthepizzaguy - 164
autolycus - 1 - ???
BSmith - 2 - ???
Champ - 18 - ????
crimson_snow - 67 - ???
Csargo - 113
Cuthillius - 54 - mild town
Dp101 - 98
El Barto - 37 - null to town
Fredwood - 28 - towny
Logic - 14 - scummy
Manasi - 57 - scummy
Montmorency - 31 - null to scum
novice - 40 - towny
Sooh - 28 - town
Winston Hughes - 17 - Towny
talked about it a bit yesterday, liked a bit of the tonal stuff afterwards
still not sure how i feel about it
i'm at the point where i'm almost sure there's at least one scum in pizza/csargo
but i'm not quite sure there's one scum in pizza/csargo
i think IF csargo is scum there's quite a solid chance of pizza being such along with him, what with his defense and townreading of csargo being to an unusually disproportionate level compared with the rest of the game
like you look around thread and say, yo, who really thinks csargo's town
and that's mostly pizza, but then some people seem to be taking that and running with it because pizza said it
if y'know what i mean
reverse i don't think is NECESSARILY as likely
but
they COULD both be town
i'm just looking around the game nonplussed
if they ARE, then i'd be looking more at barto/sooh/manasi/auto/winston group
if they aren't everything makes more sense buuut at the same time
hrmhrmhrmhrm
i do get the sense that pizza's been misrepresenting people and cases he's talked about in ways that seem ??? as town, but
i don't KNOW the inner workings of his mind
it just seems like he's creating a framework of people and townies and scums and pushing it super aggressively
which could be fine, could be town leading, could be great
but on the whole i'm not too fond of the way he's been going about doing that or reading people to achieve said framework
yesterday when he picks up on jowy, he's all hey i think he's scummy, and then ASKS THE THREAD AT LARGE why they think jowy's town, ignores, gets any people together he can, and today makes lame excuses about "at least he feels good he lynched there"
he frames things like my colored votes in a very odd way
rather than something like "people could have gotten paranoid" he was all "that could have made me tinfoil you and something something GET LYNCHED"
it was completely blowing everything out of proportion in a way that just didn't really make sense
i think the meta arguments are wholly wifom, highly variable and undependable, and a waste of time
anyway, this is where i feel most comfortable today
vote:askthepizzaguy
In this kind of post, please more analysis on the road to that tally (i.e. timing and pushes). Multi-ties are bad for mafia, but they don't control all of them so even when things get awkward it may be tactically unadvisable to deploy wild vote switches for the sake of quickly resolving the danger. In such a case, this sort of skittishness is likely one of the major factors in allowing the distribution to later out individual and grouped scum. So if the Mafia were more circumspect in anticipation of the scenario, the exact process toward the 6-way tie could be more useful to investigate.
For example, as novice is going about, EOD1 saw Csargo and Barto switching onto Jowy (solidly voted by Pizza), then Champ onto Jowy, then DP self-pres from Csargo onto Jowy at Pizza's pressure, then Csargo went back to voting DP and was joined there by Manasi, closing the phase.
One way to see it is that Csargo was being reckless with his towny convictions, another is that this was indeed part of a final push to rescue mafia Csargo. We need to do the rest of the day from after the first stage of DP pressure. It's needed overall and it may help illuminate the events of EOD.
If you want a read, here's one: CSnow is the towniest player in the field so far, but he's not pure, so you can't trust it.
Vitiate Man.
History repeats the old conceits
The glib replies, the same defeats
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Night chat makes for boring days it seems.
I have no idea what Monty is putting forth with that post. The end as well, so cryptic.
Cuth can you bring up examples of what you're talking about? ATPG misrepresenting people/cases, because I don't recall any posts that I would describe that way.
I also don't understand Monty's last post, although I don't think that that tells us anything about his alignment. Sooh's ISO posts feel pretty NAI, which kind of worries me because I feel I should get at least some kind of a town lean on them as a result of so much work. I dunno, feeling pretty uncertain. As much as no kill is nice, having half as many flips as in a normal game by this stage makes things harder.
Holy moly Cuth, that post.
Regarding my lame defense of Jowy, I wasn't paying enough attention to see he was actually on the table for a lynch. Y'all know I'm a very jokey person in game and I thought the peek claim, however horrible misplaced and obviously fake, was a funny thing to ride out.
Mostly a joke between friends I suppose, nothing alignment indicative. I get why people are reading into that tho.
lolmafia
Sooh's iso results just seem like a lot of recap.
Where she does give reads/leans, they seem like.. hesitant, almost?
wtf did Monty defend me lmfao
hi csargo
I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.
Vitiate Man.
History repeats the old conceits
The glib replies, the same defeats
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Vote: Sooh
just gonna keep this here from yesterday
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