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    What? How would one arrive at such a conclusion? Do you mean that in the sense that he only heard crazy racist stories about how terrible they had it in Africa or something like that? Was he unable to ask them whether they preferred picking cotton over their lives in Africa?
    It sounds incredibly naive even or especially for the time. You usually don't chain, supervise and threaten with death (for fleeing) people whose lives you just improved...then again slaves in the US weren't seen as people but property...
    For one thing, those in the US were Christianised, and they were under Rule of Law and not subject to Africa's tribal warfare.

    Matter of perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    For one thing, those in the US were Christianised, and they were under Rule of Law and not subject to Africa's tribal warfare.

    Matter of perspective.
    Well, if you think that they have souls that can be saved, how do you justify treating them like animals? Matter of cognitive dissonance?


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    Well, if you think that they have souls that can be saved, how do you justify treating them like animals? Matter of cognitive dissonance?
    Absolutely, profound Cognitive Dissonance.

    I'm not in any way defending the argument, merely noting is could be made sincerely.
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    I'm not in any way defending the argument, merely noting is could be made sincerely.
    Yes, but I wouldn't erect statues for people just because their terrible ideas were sincerely held by them.

    And if we're talking park beautification, I'd vote for more statues of women. If you can't find many of them among politicians, put up statues of scientists and other people who actually contribute great things to a country, mankind or society. The Greeks and Romans would probably have made the Hollywood walk of fame one where you walk by statues of the actors honored there.


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    The Greeks and Romans would probably have made the Hollywood walk of fame one where you walk by statues of the actors honored there.
    Way ahead of you.
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    I don't think the wax figurines would last long in the rain and wind outside.
    And being in a museum doesn't count as being praised in public.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    For one thing, those in the US were Christianised, and they were under Rule of Law and not subject to Africa's tribal warfare.

    Matter of perspective.
    You are thinking three dimensionally. Maybe Lee just foresaw what was to happen in Africa over the next 40 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    For one thing, those in the US were Christianised, and they were under Rule of Law and not subject to Africa's tribal warfare.

    Matter of perspective.
    BTW, one thing to point out is exactly that black people were not subject to rule of law, to the extent that the country as a whole or the general population were.

    It would have been a matter of luck to receive even an acknowledgement of the theory of rule of law.

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