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    Default Re: regarding the cliffton thread that got locked

    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens View Post
    I am not so sure either: the exchange may have been a sideshow to you, but to me it felt like an old grudge that threatened to dominate and possibly derail the thread, without adding anything of value.
    Crisis averted... as the thread has now been locked, there is no danger of any further derailment. All is good, we can now all get back to doing nothing at all...

    Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
    other staff did not have to deal with it in my absence.
    What was there to "deal with"? Who was harmed? What kind of imaginary rules are being broken?

    Quote Originally Posted by drone
    I let all kinds of off-topic banter go on in threads, but "banter" is not what was going on here.
    You said the posts were "offtopic", I've said that offtopic used to go on, within the flow of threads and was never a problem. That's all I've said.

    Whether the offtopic "discussion" in question within the thread counted as "objectionable" is a different matter.

    Only two members were really involved in that exchange, I had not reported the thread or any posts within in it and neither had the other to my knowledge - if he had that would be rather bizarre and hypocritical.

    The end result and this show, is worse that the disagreement within the thread. That's the point I'm making and what you fail to recognise.

    That mostly constructive thread is locked. In locking that thread apparently you feel you've done a good thing.

    So, trolling iron man rules threads get them locked and a helpful and willing moderator aids and abets the trolls by applying the lock...

    To replace it we now have this. Even more visible, even more stupid and pointless, presented for the "entertainment" of the entire forum, rather than just the few members involved in the niche sub forum...
    Quote Originally Posted by gallum View Post
    The DEB8 guy is clearly trolling [he's highjacked/derailed a thread on the same topic 3 times over MANY YEARS] and he's the only one doing so in that thread.
    In the quest for some kind of misguided, perverted "impartiality", the mods will of course simply blame all those involved - schoolteacher style... which is why we now have this thread in this forum as part of some idiotic formal(?) process which will achieve precisely nothing and may as well be closed. Honestly, no idea why this is here and open and the actual thread with the content in the forum where this is supposed to be is closed...

    Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
    I happen to disagree with this viewpoint, there was no way I was going to let the thread continue on it's course without intervention. Locking the thread was likely the easy way out, but I feel like this discussion (in one form or another) would be going on regardless of which mechanism I used.
    And what a disaster that would be...

    I've seen worse in the backroom. That's how hypocritical and one sided this farce is.

    The backroom has a history of more moderator coverage, more moderator time, more bans, infractions, "exchanges", major incidents... than the rest of the site put together. Yet it was all worth it, all perfectly acceptable, permissible and allowed to continue, with minor slaps when some miscreant took things a bit too far. Now we have a minor back and forth between two or three members in a forum which has had no posts this year, apart from that thread... and the resident moderator jumps in.

    Playing right into the hands of the individual(s) who resurrected and trolled the old thread and the individual who also felt the need to weigh in and resume spewing bile into the new thread, based on one tiny comment which was perceived as a slight. The fact they were reading at all, the fact they they scanned for any kind of perceived offence says a lot...

    Why would you post in an "iron man rules" thread just to trash every idea presented [by the posters you happen to despise]?

    Shall I go to the forums about the newer games just to trash every aspect and facet of those? Better still, shall I also post in the threads relating to certain MTW mods and just trash and ridicule those mods, their implementations and the individuals involved?

    It's win, win for me... based on this, the worst scenario is that the threads will be locked...
    Quote Originally Posted by gallum View Post
    just read it.
    That's the easy part, but difficult for some it would seem. But it's not worth the effort, lumping everyone together, etc, is the more "professional" way of doing things... and calling it a "feud" is also rather telling... just lock those threads and treat ALL those deemed to be involved as idiots - impartially and equally...

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    Default Re: regarding the cliffton thread that got locked

    Quote Originally Posted by caravel View Post
    Why would you post in an "iron man rules" thread just to trash every idea presented [by the posters you happen to despise]?
    ..and if you post in a thread that you apparently hate its very existence to express dogmatically that hate without ever contributing to the thread or argue anything but just crapping anything said with simple one-word confrontational statements, then what would that make you??!!

    Folks of the staff: do yourself and the forum a favor and re-open that thread and the previous one and safeguard the on-topic folks instead of gutting the thread for a single alt acount/troll hi jacking and derailing it systematically - you are presently surrendering the board to a political agenda imposed through the worst of means that the very forum rules you serve and impose were designed to protect it from..

    You are being taken for a hell of a ride by acting un-knowingly as levers of said agenda..
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    Default Re: regarding the cliffton thread that got locked

    Quote Originally Posted by caravel View Post
    Only two members were really involved in that exchange, I had not reported the thread or any posts within in it and neither had the other to my knowledge - if he had that would be rather bizarre and hypocritical.
    It certainly wasn't me. Honest !

    The end result and this show, is worse that the disagreement within the thread. That's the point I'm making and what you fail to recognise.
    I certainly agree with that.

    That mostly constructive thread is locked. In locking that thread apparently you feel you've done a good thing.

    So, trolling iron man rules threads get them locked and a helpful and willing moderator aids and abets the trolls by applying the lock...
    I disagree that I was Trolling. And I take offence at that comment too. If the older Thread had not been referenced, I would not even have bothered to post at all !

    To replace it we now have this. Even more visible, even more stupid and pointless, presented for the "entertainment" of the entire forum, rather than just the few members involved in the niche sub forum...
    Agreed.

    Playing right into the hands of the individual(s) who resurrected and trolled the old thread and the individual who also felt the need to weigh in and resume spewing bile into the new thread, based on one tiny comment which was perceived as a slight.
    Again - I passed comment - I did NOT Troll it.

    The fact they were reading at all, the fact they they scanned for any kind of perceived offence says a lot...
    Unlike this post - I did not do as you suggest. Please do not tar me with your foibles.

    Why would you post in an "iron man rules" thread just to trash every idea presented [by the posters you happen to despise]?
    If I despised you, you would certainly have know about it long before now. From my perspective, it sadly appears that you may despise me however...

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    Default Re: regarding the cliffton thread that got locked

    Folks... I think it would be better to let dead dogs lie

    Otherwise...it's muskets at ten paces.......


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    Default Re: regarding the cliffton thread that got locked

    What - no apology for inanely subscribing to gallums theory ?

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    Default Re: regarding the cliffton thread that got locked

    Folks, I am locking this as it has gotten out of hand.
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