Biden Thread

[Montmorency]

I don't think we'll ever comment on the 2024 election per se, since it's pretty straightforward, but here goes:

De Santis and the rest of the Republican slate are so weak that Trump wouldn't even have to campaign to sail into the GOP nomination. 2024 is a Trump-Biden rematch.

There will probably not be a recession starting a year from now.

The relative popularity of the presumptive nominees is unchanged and will almost certainly remain substantially unchanged.

Biden only needs to win one of Georgia-Arizona-Wisconsin - states he won in 2020 - to win in the Electoral College if the rest of the battleground states stay Democratic, which is widely predicted. Biden will win the popular vote.

The Supreme Court, and moreover the sitting governments of the three states, preclude any shenanigans such as unilaterally awarding EC votes to a preferred candidate.

More speculatively, out of 150 million votes (~10 million fewer than were case in 2020), Biden will receive 51% and Trump will receive 46.9%, and I give an equal chance of the Democrats either holding the Senate 50-50 or losing it by one seat. The House can fall either way, but within a five-seat majority.

[CrossLOPER]

I want my 3+ party clownshow with Trump livestreaming from a cell and DeSantis, Christie and some other random alt-righter calling each other the f-slur, while Newsom stares blankly at all of this, with Biden ultimately winning in a landslide, despite falling asleep. Also, MTG comes out as bi.

[Idaho]

I really don't understand American politics. Why is anyone in their right mind not screaming for a viable democratic candidate? Seem to somehow be sleepwalking into another politically and morally bankrupt election between two awful candidates.

[Montmorency]

Biden's been pretty good actually, the best president in 45 years. Which isn't saying much, but it puts him comfortably in the top 10. I certainly can't think of anyone who'd do better on the current political scene.

Don't assume he's our equivalent to the British Labour "there isn't an endless supply of money" Party's Keir Starmer!

[CrossLOPER]

I really don't understand American politics. Why is anyone in their right mind not screaming for a viable democratic candidate? Seem to somehow be sleepwalking into another politically and morally bankrupt election between two awful candidates.

Part of it is the rise of "independent thinkers". People who won't be slaughtered like sheep. They won't drink the fluoride, they won't take the vaccine, they won't wear the face diaper. Also, NIMBYs. Very popular strategy with both right and left. Publicly say something about a particular group, but don't apply that to family members. Trans rights? Sure. Hormones? NOT FOR MY SON. I HAVE A BOY. A REAL BOY. HE IS NOT A GIRL. HE IS A BOY.

Biden is actually the best specimen for the current climate. Frustratingly boring, but stable and capable of understanding and accepting long term consequences. I was pleasantly surprised.

Also, how is Brexit going?

[Hooahguy]

The influx of faux "independent thinkers" is definitely the worst development in politics since Trump. My favorite bit from them recently was the "why is there no war footage from Ukraine" line that was going around a couple months ago, which is just so mind-numbingly stupid that Im pretty sure they all have brainworms.

[Idaho]

Part of it is the rise of "independent thinkers". People who won't be slaughtered like sheep. They won't drink the fluoride, they won't take the vaccine, they won't wear the face diaper. Also, NIMBYs. Very popular strategy with both right and left. Publicly say something about a particular group, but don't apply that to family members. Trans rights? Sure. Hormones? NOT FOR MY SON. I HAVE A BOY. A REAL BOY. HE IS NOT A GIRL. HE IS A BOY.

Biden is actually the best specimen for the current climate. Frustratingly boring, but stable and capable of understanding and accepting long term consequences. I was pleasantly surprised.

Also, how is Brexit going?

Brexit is subject to the "true Scotsman" fallacy. Ask a Brexiteer why it's been such a total shit show and they'll tell you it's because we haven't truly delivered Brexit yet.

My missus accidentally bumped into starmer last year. She heckled him as he was doing some photo op in the local park. The minders came over and said she could speak to the great man afterwards and raise her concerns. He said that he didn't have any ideology. "How do we know what you actually stand for?" She asked, without satisfactory answer. She said he was like Kryten from red dwarf in real life.

[CrossLOPER]

starmer

My knowledge of UK politics is thin. Briefly looking over his stances, I am inclined to agree with him as they appear to be vaguely left leaning. What memes does he spawn?

[Montmorency]

The best path for former neoconservatives is back unto liberalism.

I think capitalism far superior to socialism, and free markets with a welfare state and some regulation far superior to a government-run economy with limited room for freedom. But if capitalists side with authoritarians--better social democracy than corporatist authoritarianism.