Do you beleave in God(Poll)

[bmolsson]

I don't believe in God. If he exist, he doesn't deserve to be believed in........

[DisruptorX]

I can't answer either option. Every religion in Earth is painfully and blatantly nonsense, but that doesn't mean there isn't someting that mankind might view as a god.

I'm not really an atheist, but I am not religious, it isn't a topic I think about in my daily life.

[Byzantine Prince]

Define 'god'.

Please.

Wanna vote, but can't 'til you do.

god [god]
n (plural gods)
1. supernatural being: one of a group of supernatural male beings in some religions, each of which is worshiped as the personification or controller of some aspect of the universe

[Uesugi Kenshin]

NO!

Anyway, beyond my enthusiasm for Atheism it seems that more people do not believe than do believe. 26 to 22 at the moment. Hurray for Atheism!

[Drisos]

Yes I do.

25 yes, 26 no

more people voted yes than I expected.

To all atheists: I don't mind you not believing in god, but try not to isult people who do.

[R'as al Ghul]

Vote for NO.
I don't believe in God(s).
There's no reason to.
No problems with people that do, though.
But I guess a little bit of faith has a place in Science, too.

[Sigurd]

@Byzantine Prince:

The topic on Agnosticism vs. Atheism is an exhausted topic on these boards. At least for the older members. There were several threads that discussed this around the same time I made this poll: What are your Beliefs? (NB: the change of forum engine has resulted in some of my formatting not working).

Some of the other threads are linked into my summary (post #2 in the above thread).
[edit]: It seems like the links I mention above has URLs to the old forum and hence are not working properly. They do however exist somewhere on this new version of the forum but I can't remember who posted them or when they were first posted.

And… you know what beleave means? (not believe)

[Husar]

Yes, I do. In every aspect.
Atheists seem to be the ones who always look down on others, or is it just that they know they´re wrong and feel they have to defend themselves by mentioning their atheism almost everywhere. Isn´t it enough that I have to feel almost personally attacked by films like the life of Brian? It´s often the same people who tell us to have respect for other people´s believes and thoughts and then start to make fun of jesus, the bible and other things.
Not only crusades can hurt other people, words can do that, too.
And btw, no, I´m not catholic.

I don´t mind if you are atheists, buddhist, maoist, islamic, catholic, protestant etc., but as long as I don´t make fun of you for what you believe(even if you believe in nothing), please don´t make fun of me for what I believe.

[Idomeneas]

Yes, I do. In every aspect.
Atheists seem to be the ones who always look down on others, or is it just that they know they´re wrong and feel they have to defend themselves by mentioning their atheism almost everywhere. Isn´t it enough that I have to feel almost personally attacked by films like the life of Brian? It´s often the same people who tell us to have respect for other people´s believes and thoughts and then start to make fun of jesus, the bible and other things.
Not only crusades can hurt other people, words can do that, too.
And btw, no, I´m not catholic.

I don´t mind if you are atheists, buddhist, maoist, islamic, catholic, protestant etc., but as long as I don´t make fun of you for what you believe(even if you believe in nothing), please don´t make fun of me for what I believe.

sorry but life of Brian rocks IMO

[Adrian II]

To all atheists: I don't mind you not believing in god, but try not to isult people who do.

That's a fine line we're walking here, Drisos. Some members call some of my ideas absurd and they have every right to do so. I have the same right with regard to other peoples' ideas. I have every right to state that some religious notions look to me like aviation experiments that have long been overtaken by social and scientific progress.

On the other hand, I stated above that I take religion seriously because so many other people on this earth do. And I do. I have many times defended my view that the Bible, the Quran and other 'holy' books are worth reading and respecting in their own right, even though I do not regard them as sources of revealed truths. I have shown that I am more than superficially interested in Christian theology and in Christian writers, from Mauriac through Lewis, and I have made it clear in a seemingly endless series of 'Pope threads' that I don't share the common anti-Church view on Aids prevention in Africa.

But I' m not a Christian and I have a right to say and demonstrate why and in what ways Christianity looks absurd to me. Christians have the right to say (as a friend of mine once did) that my world view reminds them of an ant colony that reproduces itself without an apparent higher motive or aim. It made me smile, and it made me understand him a little bit more. That's the upside to such discussions. We should be able to write such things about each other, mostly in jest, and thereby reveal ourselves and get a better understanding.

That's why you'll always find me on your side in a 'Christianity sux' thread.

[Husar]

sorry but life of Brian rocks IMO

I have to say that as a film it´s pretty funny, but only if I ignore who they´re making fun of.

[Idomeneas]

I have to say that as a film it´s pretty funny, but only if I ignore who they´re making fun of.

I believe that there must be no limits to satyric plays. Nobody has to see something that IHO insult his beliefs.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

I think if your religous the life of brian is even funnier to you. I know it cracked me up. If you cant laugh at yourself or your own beliefs you have no real sense of humor.

[ICantSpellDawg]

i honestly did not like that movie
and i am a huge python fan

to each his own (certain parts were alright; like the "what have the romans done" bit)

[Crazed Rabbit]

I believe.

Somehow, I find it implausible to assume humans somehow evolved from innert objects. But I guess spontaneous generation still has its proponents, even 100 years after Pasteur...

But not only that, I have faith in the one, everlasting God who created me.

Crazed Rabbit

[ICantSpellDawg]

Christians have the right to say (as a friend of mine once did) that my world view reminds them of an ant colony that reproduces itself without an apparent higher motive or aim. It made me smile, and it made me understand him a little bit more.

ive used that one before

fair post, all in all - and i understand where you are coming from

[Byzantine Prince]

Let's hear some creation theories from our atheist members. Here's mine:

I believe we were created by the one, the everlasting whirlwind of chaotic randomness.

[LittleGrizzly]

didn't expect that, 10 more no's than yes's

[kiwitt]

Does playing "God" in Total War count

[Uesugi Kenshin]

Spontaneous creation. Some life had to come after unlife, it was just a matter of time before single celled ortganisms poopped into existence and then evolved into chemical meat bags, such as us.

[Quietus]

It's all random.

The physical laws here on earth led to the chemical laws. The chemical laws led to biological laws ("life"). The biological laws led to societal laws.

Physics-->Chemistry-->Biology-->Society-->?

What's next? "The Matrix"? Maybe.... The point is, that's evolution to you.

[bmolsson]

I always wondered, how can anyone that believe in God ever be insulted over his belief ?? Frankly speaking, I really strong belief would make any attempt to mock it impossible.......

[King Henry V]

I believe in one omniscient, benevolent but not omnipotent Lord, and that all evil in the world stems from the devil. I believe in His Son, Our Saviour Jesus Christ and in the Holy Spirit. I believe that God has helped me on several occasions.

Our planet has a very special position. It is in that thin strip of the solar system where life is actually possible, and it is a wonder that we have not been destroyed by meteorites. If the stars created everything, the what created the stars? Not even the greatest scientists know that.

Religion is the basis of our laws. It is the basis of our ideas of good and evil, right and wrong. Naturally Man himself has manipulated religion to his advantage, but is that not Man's fault instead of religion?

I believe that atheism is root of the degeneration of modern society. It is the root of yobbism, of crime, of promiscuity, of the increasing number of single mothers and of the lack of morality. The world has lost its sense of right and wrong.The Pope is right: the best way to prevent AIDS is sexual abstenance.

[Al Khalifah]

God made the big-bang, therefore God made everything.

So evolution and universe expansion are true, but so is Genesis. Judgement day will come when the universe contracts again (assuming that the universe will contract and that it will not stagnate or continue to expand indefinately depending on the Hubbel constant).

Scientific discovery doesn't have to disprove God, it only enhances his reputation that so many miracles could occur out of random chance. Does that make everyone happy?

[Ja'chyra]

God made the big-bang, therefore God made everything.

So where did God come from?

Personally I don't believe but mainly because I don't care. If believing in God helps you that's fine with me, just don't try to force it on me and we'll get along fine.

[Meneldil]

I don't believe in God and I don't like biggots (Christian, Jew and Muslims biggots), though I enjoyed reading the Bible and the Koran.

[King Edward]

I believe.

Somehow, I find it implausible to assume humans somehow evolved from innert objects. But I guess spontaneous generation still has its proponents, even 100 years after Pasteur...

But not only that, I have faith in the one, everlasting God who created me.

Crazed Rabbit

You want to see the activity levels of some people in my office, its more than plausable that Humans evolved form Innert objects

On topic i myself do not believe in god but that doesnt mean my beliefs are right.........

To be honest religion has no real influence on my life. I was Christened Roman catholic as my grand mother was irish and very devout. But i dont really think about it and i dont really talk about it so it doesn't affect me.

What i do beleive is that people are free to beleive in wha they wish and if they derive some form of comfort from this then it cannot be a bad thing.

[Duke Malcolm]

It's all random.

The physical laws here on earth led to the chemical laws. The chemical laws led to biological laws ("life"). The biological laws led to societal laws.

Physics-->Chemistry-->Biology-->Society-->?

What's next? "The Matrix"? Maybe.... The point is, that's evolution to you.

A number of revered, and esteemed astrophysicists have shown that these laws are so finely-tuned (should they be in the slightest bit different, this wouldn't be here), that it cannot be random, and that there must be/have been a Creator. A number of these astrophysicists have converted from athiesm/agnosticism following this discovery/reasoning.

On the other hand, however; a number of equally revered, and esteemed astrophysicists have theorised that there is this theoretical multiverse, which contains an infinite number of universes, each with different laws,then the existence of our universe is an inevitability. Since there is no proof of a multiverse, then we have no way of knowing if the theory is true.

So, you can see, that the laws have not got the experts any where in the great theological debate.

[bmolsson]

So where did God come from?

Sigh... From Gods mom of course... Everyone knows that....

[Ja'chyra]

Sigh... From Gods mom of course... Everyone knows that....

So where did................nah, nevermind