Concerning crusades.

**ichi** · 06-21-2005, 15:42

Originally Posted by bretwalda

Wow! Does it ever happened to you? If you refuse I guess that is war then, but what happens if you say yes and hand it over? Are your troops removed? Any lost? Etc?

Yes it happened to me in Novgorod; as the Huns I was almost into the province when a Crusade from Spain showed up and demanded the province on the turn after I took it.

Since I said no, I can't tell you what happens if you say yes.

ichi

**antisocialmunky** · 06-21-2005, 15:50

Best bet is they retreat or are ransomed if they don't have a retreat route like 2+ faction battles.

Do crusaders in battle get a moral bonus or some bonus valour. Because I was defending against an English crusade in Bulgaria and my 4* general's Infantry line cracked and routed after initial contact with a few Knights Templars and Chivalric Seargents.

**drone** · 06-21-2005, 15:58

One question I've always had about crusades: do the Catholic factions that can't crusade (Danes, Poland, and Hungary IIRC) get a compensating ability/bonus? I've tried using the forum search, but nothing jumps out at me.

I was playing the Danes and got ex-commed. I didn't really notice any adverse affects from it, I didn't know if this was a little bonus for not being able to launch crusades. Not that religion means that much to the heathen vikings anyway...

**antisocialmunky** · 06-21-2005, 16:04

Szneklys or however you spell it are the most powerful fast HA in the game.

And.

The Danes get the vikings.

**King Henry V** · 06-21-2005, 17:11

And the Poles have great oppurtinity to expand.

**bretwalda** · 06-21-2005, 18:43

Correct spelling: Székely (the Hungarian horse archer unique unit)

Originally Posted by King Henry V

And the Poles have great oppurtinity to expand.

And if you check my sig you can have them to be able to crusade, as well.

(Which is more or less historicaly accurate as we discussed in some thread. There was a Hungarian crusade that got as far as Cyprus, the Poles did some, too, and the "heathen" (I just quote

) Danes launched some crusades to the east part of the Baltic to convert some pagans.)

(I am sorry I did not mean to put that sad smiley...)

**antisocialmunky** · 06-21-2005, 22:53

The Eastern Countries don't really need crusade ability anyways. Are you really going to pay 1000 and 4 turns for 198 Chivalric Seargents and 60 Chivalric Knights to move 1 province?

**Roark** · 06-22-2005, 04:15

Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

The Eastern Countries don't really need crusade ability anyways. Are you really going to pay 1000 and 4 turns for 198 Chivalric Seargents and 60 Chivalric Knights to move 1 province?

Obviously your piety is questionable.

Anybody got a match?

**Ironside** · 06-22-2005, 09:56

Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

The Eastern Countries don't really need crusade ability anyways. Are you really going to pay 1000 and 4 turns for 198 Chivalric Seargents and 60 Chivalric Knights to move 1 province?

For an extra piety and most inportant an extra influence? Yes

Order foot is better than CS BTW.

And one of the reasons why the comp love sending crusades into your territory is that you got that exellent ship network that it can use. Moving your ships so the comp cannot get there in one turn will reduce the odds of the crusade entering your territory.

On a simular note you can only use the province-owners ships. You can't even use your own ships when in foreign territory. I thank the comp is limited in the same way.

**bretwalda** · 06-22-2005, 11:19

Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

The Eastern Countries don't really need crusade ability anyways. Are you really going to pay 1000 and 4 turns for 198 Chivalric Seargents and 60 Chivalric Knights to move 1 province?

But alas, no question! Playing Hungary and successfully killing the heathen Turks with great number of crusades... Adding each territory by a successful crusade piety and influence skyrocketing... Oh yeah, baby!