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    Default Re: Crusades?

    Moving on a couple of years, here's the results of Spain's attack on Naples.
    As mentioned peviously, it's actual destination was Sicily. An abject lesson
    on not setting your sights more than one province deep into enemy territory...



    And they didn't come back for seconds...

    Here's a close up showing the remnants of both crusades.



    Now a funny thing happened on the alliance front. I have a screeny of the
    Italians accepting a marriage proposal I made to them, very close to the
    screeny of the Spanish declaring Crusade on me. I think it was regarded as
    being just before Spain went from being allied to both me and the Italians to
    being at war with me. That must have been the marriage of my Emperor,
    Constantine XI.

    It was some years before the Crusade marker finally appeared, in Venice.
    During this time, the Italian doge proposed a marriage of his daughter to the
    Emperor's younger brother. Take a look at this next screenie and note the
    flashing icon indicating the Italian proposal conflicts with their alliance to
    Spain, while I'm at war with Spain.


    EDIT: Sadly, the flashing red border around Spain's shield doesn't show here,
    due to the timing of the F2 keypress.




    Spain's African army had finished off the re-emerged Almos, hitherto next
    door to my forces in Egypt and neutral to me. Being allies, they stopped
    there. Once they had declared war on me with the crusade, I waited a while
    but eventually attacked Cyrenacia and it was not until that point that the
    Italians cancelled our treaty and went to being neutral with me. I think this
    was little more than a year after the second of the two marriages, so that
    was a close shave for my younger heir. I continue to trade with them in 4
    ports and they have ships in key locations, so I was lucky things didn't turn
    nasty. We don't share a land border yet and they're probably third-last on my
    conquest list. Sicily second last (see above), Pope last of all.

    So, in summary, while a state of war existed between Byz and Spain, thanks
    to Crusade declaration but with years to go before forces meet, Italy could
    marry off a Princess to me, even though it conflicted with the existing Italy-
    Spain alliance. Seems to be the only situation where one side can have two
    allies who are at war with one another.

    Not until a province was conquered (Cyrenacea) did the Italian stance
    become invalid and oblige them to cancel the treaty.
    Last edited by EatYerGreens; 08-19-2005 at 08:00.

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