3rd of October closing in - Hotline for Turkey

[Redleg]

While I'm not doubting any of your examples Red sometimes I do wonder if everything reported as racial incidents are, in fact, racial.

Most are probably on the line between just flat out hate of your fellow human being - and actual racism. Since most of the reports are from the UK - others would be a better judge if its racism or not. However as an outsider looking at the reports - there is a hint of racism in the attacks.

I'll give you an example if someone calls me a Scottish whatever is that a racial attack or just plain simple common or garden abuse, if you say it is racial then what if they left off the Scottish part? Would it then just be abuse? For those who say that is a racial attack I would ask why? My main concern would be the "whatever" they called me not the fact that they tagged on Scottish, Jock, Sweaty (Sweaty sock = Jock) or even black, Jew, Chinky etc.

Well you sort of answered your own question - the use of the racial term would actually qualify it as racism - or at least that is my understanding of racism from several courses both in the military and in civilian life.

maybe defining racism would be helpful. Edit: One source defines racism as

definition of racism is any distinction, exclusion, restriction, or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment, or exercise, on equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural, or any other field of public life.

Maybe it's just me but I don't see calling a black man black, or a Scottish man Scottish, as insulting, but then if I'm going to insult someone it'll be because they've done somehting to me not just because they're different.

Well if you follow it up with an attack of either verbal abuse or physical violence - its gets real close to what I have seen defined as racism. Calling someone by their racial makeup is not necessarily racism - however if it is the factor that is determining your decision making process then it is indeed racism.

Again a prime examble of racism - which is harmless - but is indeed racism.

Why should Turks, an asiatic people's, join the EU, a european organization. I can understand Israel going into the EU, because they are mostly white from mixing with europeans, but turks are heavily mixed anatolians and steppe people. Neither of which have ever been considered european

Notice the racism in the statement - advocating denying entry of Turkey because the population is mixed and the country is technically not in Europe - but allowing Israel because people from Europe immigrated to that country and that country is also not in Europe.

How is it racism, calling them what they are? The turksih guy posted right underneath me and agreed with me. We are not as PC in that area of the world as you are. We call things what they are.

So if your not PC in that part of the world - call your statement for what it is - racism.