Quick update - the Crusade for Kiev has been launched - looks tasty with a couple of Knights Templars, about 5 Feudal Knights, some halbards. I threw in a young 5 star ambitious prince as well. In about 2 years it should, accompanied by all my "Eastern Front" armies, start sweeping over to Kiev. To top it all, regular little Byzant revolts are giving me the opportunity to bribe a few Varangians - a Varangian, bill, longbow combo backed by a few knights looks like fun - roll on 1230.