EU yes or no?

[Edex]

More yes then no, but I agree - EU should improve a lot - it has oportunities, buts its too byrocratic right now.

[Xiahou]

Well, I'll vote 'no'- because if I was a European I'd be vehemently against it- because I think it'd be a disaster for Europe. But, as an American, it gets a 'gah'- I could care less what they do.

[Meneldil]

Well, I think I've been misunderstood. I voted yes to 'should we disband the EU ?' because I think the European institutions are kinda screwed up atm. Plus I don't see why people who don't like the EU would have to stay here.

But then, I'm all for a european federal state, an european common language and currency, a same law system. It's just that I think the current EU has too many flaws.
So, I also answer yes to the 'EU yes or no ?' question. (now that's confusing )

Meneldil, like a democratic voter in Florida, was tricked into voting the exact opposite of what he intended to by the confusing polling system.

ROFL, it reminds me of the 'You don't want to not vote for John Kerry ? - Are you sure ? Really ? Are you really REALLY sure ?' video from boomChicago.nl

[Bartix]

Iam not sure.

May be as cagemush say split administrative unit into more like minded smaller bits (Nordic, Central, Club Med/Garlic belt and let British take care of selves and Ireland...) and then free trade etc. in between.

Culture is so different, EU so big, so much administration so many countries that must be agreeing...

[Franconicus]

Yes! But do not focus on making it bigger but in making it better. I rather have a small EU unified than a big diverted one.

I really think we should have a core EU for those country who want a political and social unit. France, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Italy, ... . Those who do not want that - that is all right. They can have trade agreements and close cooperation.

[Sigurd]

NO - We will not join!!!

[Louis VI the Fat]

NO - We will not join!!!

We'll make you.

All your oil are belong to us...

[Louis VI the Fat]

I really think we should have a core EU for those country who want a political and social unit. France, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Italy, ... . Those who do not want that - that is all right. They can have trade agreements and close cooperation.

Yes, I think is the only realistic way forward too.

[Ja'chyra]

The EU is a good idea, but there is a long way to go yet.

The EU is just another pathetic attempt to unsaid America as "undisputed champion of the wrold" and unfortuantly the EU countries have no chance of stopping us for 2 reasons

1. We are greedy greedy bastards
2. If anyone ever truly gets ahead of us the nukes will be used

So you silly euros can play house but we will continue to suck third wrold countries dry push around 2nd rate superpowers and keep giving China the notion they could actually compete with us

I take it that was a joke? And it's unseat.

[cegorach]

Yes keep it and expand it ( Ukraine and Georgia for example), no too close federal state, though.

I am also against so-called 'core' EU - were not the irrational French and the 'noone-likes-us' Dutch who voted against the constitution ( not bad in my opinion) - what 'core' would be created this way ?
It would be an asylum not a 'leading power'.

Regards Cegorach

[Duke of Gloucester]

Well, I'll vote 'no'- because if I was a European I'd be vehemently against it- because I think it'd be a disaster for Europe. But, as an American, it gets a 'gah'- I could care less what they do.

I think you can argue it is a bad thing, but a disaster would be World War 1 or World War 2.

[Meneldil]

Huhu, surprisingly, all americans are anti-EU.

[Adrian II]

Huhu, surprisingly, all americans are anti-EU.

[ShadesWolf]

NO to the EU

Let it die

[drone]

Huhu, surprisingly, all americans are anti-EU.

As an American, I voted GAH! If you want a bloated federal bureaucracy incapable of representing the people fairly across most of a continent, sticking their nose where it doesn't belong, welcome to the club! More power to you, but I thought you would have been paying a little more attention to what has been happening on this side of the pond.

[Adrian II]

More power to you, but I thought you would have been paying a little more attention to what has been happening on this side of the pond.

Oh but we have. You lot have been doing rather well for yourselves over the past two hundred years. We want something similar, but based on a different dream with less hard work and guns and stuff, and more leisure and sex, good food, marijuana.

Or would you prefer us to start another World War for you? Giddaddaheah!

[King Ragnar]

Britian to join the scandnavian union!!!!

[Rodion Romanovich]

I'll dance on the grave of EU

I would kick the EU when it's lying on the ground defenseless...

All they do is come up with stuff like "Strawberries are illegal to call strawberries if they'r radius is smaller than bla bla". And they cost tax payer money because they claim they need to drink Dom Perignon 58 when they discuss those things.

[BDC]

Britian to join the scandnavian union!!!!

Yes!

My blond hair clearly shows Viking blood! Let me back in my long lost cousins...

:p

[Louis VI the Fat]

Isnt the pro EU guys are from central Europe and No EU guys are from US(obvious),Britain and Scandinavia.

Not surprisingly, it turned out you were correct after all...

[Louis VI the Fat]

I'm all for an european common language

Forget it.

Them petty, obstinate British and Germans will never give in.



Edit: Er, I hope all you Brits and Germans understood that I, in fact, was poking fun at a certain unnamed central European nation that in a somewhat petty and obstinate manner demands unrealistic privileges for her own language...

[drone]

Oh but we have. You lot have been doing rather well for yourselves over the past two hundred years. We want something similar, but based on a different dream with less hard work and guns and stuff, and more leisure and sex, good food, marijuana.

Or would you prefer us to start another World War for you? Giddaddaheah!

How exactly are you going to start a world war? You'll be too busy eating gourmet food, having guilt-free sex, and hitting the bong to care about anything else. It takes hard work (and guns) to start a war! The only war you will have is when your half-baked MEPs have a pate-fight while trying to regulate acceptable lingerie colors for prostitutes.

[Adrian II]

It takes hard work (and guns) to start a war!

We still have the Russians, remember? You guys will be too busy fighting over the pros and cons of Inferior Design to know what hits you.

[Brenus]

Yes to EU. I travelled in Europe during the last 10 years and I am quiet happy:
1: Bank stopped to make benefit on my money at each exchange
2: not spending hours at borders

Because EU, I am a generation of French which didn’t had to fight against Germany or other European countries. No war on the European Union territory.

All laws and recommendations have to be ratified by the Sovereign Country before enforcement: EU has nothing to do with what each country decides to do.

No EU, France have no obligation to UK so all emigrants can freely board trains, boats or planes to go in UK if they choose to. No Sangate, no Europolice etc…

All the mafias and other terrorists will join people who want to dance on EU grave…

No EU, no development in Spain after Franco, in Portugal after St Lazarre, no help for Ireland, Greece, no reconstruction in Former Yugoslavia, just seeds for poverty and future wars…

On the other hand, no EU, perhaps the core (France, Germany, Belgium and the other one which want) will ban the UK car with their driving wheel at the wrong side… Let’s flood the Tunnel, and UK will trade with US and Australia… And Zimbabwe. No money given to EU and no benefit from EU. Visa needed to go to Calais, and green cards to work in EU. My wife is English, so no problem for me. Ok, it will decrease the sells of the SUN newspaper but at least the English will have reasons to complain, after having lost all the common market, or having to pay all the taxes...

[drone]

We still have the Russians, remember? You guys will be too busy fighting over the pros and cons of Inferior Design to know what hits you.

Bah, the Russians are our friends now. GWB has looked into the heart of Putin and seen a good man. They will only jump us if their shadowy, corrupt, corporations tell their politicians that they no longer like our shadowy, corrupt corporations.

You still have the Swiss though...

[Zharakov]

Huhu, surprisingly, all americans are anti-EU.

The Americans arnt the only ones...

[Lazul]

A strong united Scandinavia (maybe the UK ) But no god damn EU!

*bitchlslaps EU* you go to hell! you go to hell and die!

[Sjakihata]

never will we be "united" with sweden, we shall conquor them

[JAG]

Oh but we have. You lot have been doing rather well for yourselves over the past two hundred years. We want something similar, but based on a different dream with less hard work and guns and stuff, and more leisure and sex, good food, marijuana.

Or would you prefer us to start another World War for you? Giddaddaheah!

You put it so well my friend.

[bmolsson]

EU is coming, regardless if you like it or not.....