Who plays 40K?

[Papewaio]

Looking at getting back into the modeling side to relax out of what I am doing at work.

Also making enough models to do a bit of Combat Patrols...

[econ21]

I've painted up about 1500 points of Dark Angels, but never actually played with the things. I've been trying to get my nine year old son to follow suit, but although he has a fair number of feral orks and tyrannids, he's preferred Warhammer Fantasy and lately computer games.

[Captain Fishpants]

Just to be really old for a moment... I worked on the original version of 40K in one of my previous lives.

[drone]

Just to be really old for a moment... I worked on the original version of 40K in one of my previous lives.

Rogue Trader??? I still have that book. Were you involved in the rules, the fluff, the artwork, or a combination?

Somewhere in a closet I have a large Space Wolves army painted up. I also have a pretty large World Eater army in various stages of paint and an unpainted Harlequin troop. Haven't played since ~1997. Can't find the time to paint either, that's really what I enjoyed. I have been playing Dawn of War some lately, it got me thinking about breaking out the brushes again. All my figures are 1st or 2nd edition though, not sure I could legally field an army in whatever version is current.

[Meneldil]

I have a huge army of Eldars, plus some Orks, some Space Wolves and Blood Angels.

I wanted to sell all my figs, but I spent so much time painting them, giving them names and background, I just gave up and they're now wait in a box.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Space Wolves forever! I've got about 2500 points worth painted, all told.

I haven't had a game for a while though.

[King Ragnar]

I played mainly Gorkamorka if any of you know of it, it was a side game of Warhammer.

[Meneldil]

Space Wolves forever! I've got about 2500 points worth painted, all told.

I haven't had a game for a while though.

2500 points of which edition ? Depending of the edition you played with, 2500 could mean between 50 and 200 figs

[econ21]

Space Wolves forever!

Why does your choice of army not surprise me, BKS? Maybe it's just your username, but I have an image of you and Beirut with his axe making a pretty mean HQ choice in a Space Wolves army.

[econ21]

Just to be really old for a moment... I worked on the original version of 40K in one of my previous lives.

I suspect that illustrates one reason why many people here love the Total War games. For all the mass market 3D graphics real time strategy whatever spiel, at heart they seem to be designed by wargaming geeks like ourselves.

[edyzmedieval]

Uhm, what's 40K?!

[ah_dut]

Warhammer 40,000...

I am more a fantasy person but I have a 1,500 point ultramrine army, yup...I'm as boring as heck

[Marcellus]

I managed to assemble a pretty big (2500-3000 points) Ultramarines army (mostly unpainted, unfortunately). I haven't actually played the game for quite a while, however.

[Geoffrey S]

It's one of those things I've always wanted to start on but have never been able to make the time for. Other things always seem to pop up.

[Lehesu]

More of a CBT guy myself. Megamek absolutely rules.

[Papewaio]

Well I haven't played in years, barring trying to teach Wasabi how to play, after comming home to find my Flamer Marine painted in pastel pink...

Played Rogue Trader, Necromunda (the White Dwarf complex version) and after that I played more roleplaying games and LARP (World of Darkness mainly)... also used to play DnD.

However since moving to Sydney in 2000 I have done no games, just painting and that stopped after going to Taiwan.

One of the reasons I frequent these forums orginally was finding fellow smart strategy players.

Been playing Dawn of War and my brother in law has been making mecha models... so I might get into Tau... but I'm not sure if the new rules are as engaging anymore.

[drone]

The best (and worst) feature of the older rules was the flexibility and creativeness you could put into your army list, and into your models. But it left the door open to severe cheese, so GW eventually had to dumb it down for balance. There was something to be said for old-school Ork players, you either won or lost in spectacular fashion, depending on the die rolls.

I started out with Space Hulk and reading a friend's copies of White Dwarf in college. Eventually got sucked into 40K proper and Epic. When I moved up here to Virginia, there was a GW store not too far away, so there were always players around. I ended up mainly playing 40K and Warhammer Fantasy, but eventually my job and other interests made me stop. I also think I was going blind trying to paint detail .

Not sure where I would find players these days, I think the store closed down and the players at the local game shops don't seem like the type of people I'd want to play against (too immature, too cheesy, too serious, etc.). Plus, I can only imagine the crap I'd get from my girl for pushing little pieces of plastic and metal around a table for 3-4 hours, or hiding in a room painting for hours on end.

[Zalmoxis]

I was thinking of getting into it, but after I saw that the guys who make the figures practically change them every year or so, it doesn't seem like a worthwhile investment.

[econ21]

I was thinking of getting into it, but after I saw that the guys who make the figures practically change them every year or so, it doesn't seem like a worthwhile investment.

On the plus side, the new models tend to be vastly better looking than the old ones. The quality seemed to take a massive leap up around the time of the sixth edititon of Warhammer Fantasy. Have a look some of the older models - e.g. the old Dark Elf corsairs - on E-bay if you don't believe me. Hideous. The newly released Wood Elf archers are a case in point.

[drone]

On the plus side, the new models tend to be vastly better looking than the old ones. The quality seemed to take a massive leap up around the time of the sixth edititon of Warhammer Fantasy. Have a look some of the older models - e.g. the old Dark Elf corsairs - on E-bay if you don't believe me. Hideous. The newly released Wood Elf archers are a case in point.

They are getting better? About the time I quit playing, the models were getting a little ridiculous. They started upsizing all the accessories (weapons and helmets) which made the models look a little silly. Of course, I'm probably biased here since I had a Chaos Fantasy Battle army from the Realm of Chaos era which, in my not so honest opinion, were some of the best models they ever made. The detail, the evilness, ahhhh.

Now I'll have to take a look at the online catalog to see what the new models look like. Gah!

[econ21]

Well, they still have disproportionately sized weapons and hands etc. That's kind of a house style.

If you want to see "realistic" figures, look at their Lord of the Rings range - they are very nice.

But have a look at the three Elf ranges (High, Dark and Wood) and you'll see Warhammer Fantasy has some pretty nice looking models. For example, I think these are awful purty (shame they are too useless to warrant me buying for my army):

http://uk.games-workshop.com/highelv...re-gallery/14/

[Meneldil]

I just had a look to the Wood Elves figures, and yeah, they have quite improved. Too bad there's no Ariel special character anymore.

Edit : Huh, I don't like the Ogre Kingdom. When will they make an middle eastern looking army ?

[econ21]

When will they make an middle eastern looking army ?

It's a perennial question. No time soon, I guess. What I have heard is that they don't want to do something that is too obviously a copy of Samaurai or Chinese military history; nor something that plays like the Renaissance style Empire army. I don't understand this - from a commercial point of view, I would imagine an Eastern style army would sell like hot potatoes. But they want something distinctive, like the Ogre Kingdoms. Shame OK is as ugly as hell.

[drone]

Hmmm, you wouldn't happen to know why they split the Undead and Chaos armies into Tomb Kings/Vampire Counts and Beasts/Hordes of Chaos respectively? That probably trashes my Chaos army, I used daemons, warriors, and beastmen combined.

I guess most of the new models look fine. Chaos seems a little bland (but again I'm biased here ). It's nice to know they offer the basic troops in plastic packs, not only are they cheaper, but you can usually create a variety of poses with the plastic models. I probably would have never gotten started in 40K if it wasn't for the old plastic Mark VI armor space marine 10-pack. No way I could have afforded lead back then.

When will they make an middle eastern looking army ?

I think the Chaos Dwarves circa 1995 were supposed to be middle eastern, but the less said of them the better. They were terrible models. The Tomb Kings have an Egyptian look to them, very much like the second level of Diablo II.

[Meneldil]

I was rather thinking about an Haradrim looking like army. If I remember the background of Warhammer Fantasy precisely, there are some kind of Arabian kingdoms south ou Bretonnia (near Nagash's lands), where Bretonnians use to crusade...

[BDC]

The models still unbelieveably expensive?

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

2500 points of which edition ? Depending of the edition you played with, 2500 could mean between 50 and 200 figs

2500 points with the third edition lists. I've got a fair number of models, although the Land Raider soaks up some of the points.

[fret]

I used to :)

Havent played it for about 12-13 years though. Around 2002 i sold my books on ebay. I had a very shabby copy of Chapter Approved, a few pages missing missing, and the bindings gone completely - just 70 or 80 loose leaves. It went for almost $100!!

[Kekvit Irae]

I used to play it, with an Imperial Guard (Vahallan Ice Warriors = luv) army, long time ago. But the price to quality ratio on the minis is so horrible that I dont even bother anymore. If I want cheap, high-quality minis, I go to Reaper with their Dark Heaven line.

[econ21]

Hmmm, you wouldn't happen to know why they split the Undead and Chaos armies into Tomb Kings/Vampire Counts and Beasts/Hordes of Chaos respectively? That probably trashes my Chaos army, I used daemons, warriors, and beastmen combined.

No, you should be still ok. There are three types of Chaos troop - beasts, mortals and daemons but you can mix them up fairly flexibly. (If you have a mortal general, non-mortals count as special choices or some such).

Tomb Kings and Vampire Counts are different armies - think the Mummy vs Dracula.

Chaos seems a little bland

Well, as a High Elf player, I despise Chaos but I do like the Chaos mortals mini range. How can you not like:

http://uk.games-workshop.com/hordeso...re-gallery/20/

The models still unbelieveably expensive?

And getting more expensive all the time. The Lord of the Rings game is not too pricey, but it's a skirmish kind of affair. I suspect Total War players would feel more at home with the ranked combat of Warhammer Fantasy. There, you are probably looking at £300 for a decent army. And many weekends painting.