Elite Groups

[Strike For The South]

Do you beilive elite groups control the world IE Free Masons Skull and Bones ETC

[solypsist]

i see no "corporate lobbyists" option.

[LeftEyeNine]

Actually I was unaware of those options at all..Who are these two mentioned?

And yes, I think corporate lobbyist options would fit more "rational".

[Strike For The South]

i see no "corporate lobbyists" option.

Well couldnt you add it I think the elitest pretty much run the show. There is just so many examples but the one that really stands out to me is this. In 1980 good old Ronald Reagan vowed in New Hampshire that he would take a look into these groups never allow a member to serve on his cabinet. However he chooses of all people GB #1 as his Vp canadet. A month after he is elected there is an attempt on his life. Which had been cms over would have killed him thereby putting skull & bones GB as president much earlier

[AntiochusIII]

Funnily enough, I agree with solypsist with his lobbyist comment, even though I found "secret societies" ... weird and strangely creepy. I suppose it's a natural human reaction to be suspicious on such organizations. Those fraternities (and co.) can be places where outdated ideologues and obedience to tradition--the latter trait I greatly dislike--be preserved and passed on to other generations, and they often contains the rich and the powerful, as their elitism, "justified" by their own privileged positions, often translates into such "societies." Perhaps I hate them just because I believe that one's loyalty is to oneself (and all others, if you like), not just to a few others controlling you.

Edit: to answer LEN's question in a very broad way, these two are "secret societies" (those "clubs" which are inherently elitist) in the United States. They are prominent because of either their seemingly large member base or their places in famous institutions, such as Yale. The Skull&Bones (or something along that line) fraternity was based (among others or only there, I don't know) in Yale, and the two Bushes are part of it. The Free Masons I'm not sure, but I believe Redleg may know a little more as I believe he stated in the forum some time ago that his son was invited to join them (and he wished to find more information about them).

[solypsist]

looks like it's spelled correctly to me

[ichi]

Gah!

Please add the Gah! option to each poll, in the tradition of the Org.

ichi

[Tribesman]

The world is being run by the ancient order of honourable badger botherers .
It is a secret society so shrouded in secrecy that no one has ever heard of it .

[Xiahou]

The world is being run by the ancient order of honourable badger botherers .
It is a secret society so shrouded in secrecy that no one has ever heard of it .

You fool! -those words may have just signed your own death warrant!

[Kaiser of Arabia]

You fool! -those words may have just signed your own death warrant!

IDIOT! You just revealed our Society!

You are now demoted to Freemason of the 2nd Grade.

-Grandmaster of the Templar, Freemasons, et al.

[Lemur]

IBadgers. Yeah, right. Look, I'm only going to say this once, and I'll deny it if you ever bring this up again:

Racoons. The only other creature on the face of the earth that possesses opposable thumbs. That's right, they're fully-capable tool users.

Think about it: have you ever seen a human being entering or exiting the Goodyear blimp? I didn't think so. Have you ever personally been inside the NORAD mountain bunker? I didn't think so.

Racoons. They're running the whole show.

[bmolsson]

Most of these groups fails to become something powerful due to nepotism and stereotype thinking. The selection of members are often based on the wrong scheme....

[Redleg]

I need my tin foil hat before I can answer this question...

[Redleg]

Aye. And let's not forget to watch out for those secret international super-terrorist groups that inherantly loathe freedom and seek to create a world Islamo-Fascist theocratic state. Those and the Racoons, I tells ya...

Well if I was to remove my Tinfoil hat - I might just start to believe that Bush had the CIA with its most secert black ops do the attacks of 9/11.

Calling all cars...... I need a ride to the hospital.

[Tribesman]

Most of these groups fails to become something powerful due to nepotism and stereotype thinking
Yes the badgers have a very Sett way of thinking .

[Rodion Romanovich]

Yes, my own group owns it

[doc_bean]

Skull&Bones seems more like a way to help the individual memebers, not an organisation with Big Plans. Note that kerry was/is also a member, as are a lot of Washington politicians. I think they're a bit like a union for the rich and priveledged...

Freemasons: they're ancient, and from what i've heard they're mostly think tanks and discussion groups. No serious threat imo.

Illuminati: they quit after seeing how silly they looked in that Tomb Raider movie.

[Byzantine Prince]

Come on you guys, everyone knows that the .org controls the US government.

[Rodion Romanovich]

Come on you guys, everyone knows that the .org controls the US government.

Schhhh... some junior members might be listening!

[Tribesman]

Come on you guys, everyone knows that the .org controls the US government.
No no no , some parts of the org feel like they run things in conjunction with the US Govt. . Due to the immense pressure of seeing their arguements ripped apart with ease they have gone on to form a secret society . Where they can convice themselves without dissent or rational discusson that they and their minions(though that can be reversed ) are really running the world , and that only they (if left away from some sensible questions on their lunatic thoughts) deserve to run the world .

BTW can I join the new private Konservative Klub , I think you may have a vacancy due to some of SFTS 's recent posts

[Leet Eriksson]

Its all a zionist conspiracy i tell you!!111one

Isreal's lap dog, the great US of A always invades countries for oils and profit!!1

Actual conversation between the US and Iraq:

US: HEY IRAK WHERE IS OBL?
IRAQ: we don't have em dude
US: HAY WHERE IS WMDS??? YOU HAVE WMDS!!
IRAQ: we don't.. honest!
US: F**KK U WE CAMP YOUR COUNTRIES
US: ROLL WITH FREEDUMS
IRAQ: oh shi..

[Tribesman]

Faisal , you missed the last bit of the conversation ....

US; Iraq ..... oh sh.....
Iraq ; where is OBL ?
US; we don't have him dude , but he ain't that important
Iraq; we think he is in Pakistan .
US; that isn't relevant , as the Pakistani President is our friend
Iraq; but he is a dictator , has WMDs , gives the technology to evil regimes , is linked to the Taliban , Al-Qaida and Osama-B and supports terrorists .
US; yeah well .......you know....thats how things work?
Iraq; ???????? Anyway . Where is this freedom thing that you promised us ?
US ; Damn liberals !!!!! don't ask such stupid questions or we will invade you .
Iraq ; I don't want to be labeled as a revisionist or anything , but didn't you already do that ?

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Faisal , you missed the last bit of the conversation ....

US; Iraq ..... oh sh.....
Iraq ; where is OBL ?
US; we don't have him dude , but he ain't that important
Iraq; we think he is in Pakistan .
US; that isn't relevant , as the Pakistani President is our friend
Iraq; but he is a dictator , has WMDs , gives the technology to evil regimes , is linked to the Taliban , Al-Qaida and Osama-B and supports terrorists .
US; yeah well .......you know....thats how things work?
Iraq; ???????? Anyway . Where is this freedom thing that you promised us ?
US ; Damn liberals !!!!! don't ask such stupid questions or we will invade you .
Iraq ; I don't want to be labeled as a revisionist or anything , but didn't you already do that ?

GAH! YOU forgot the last part too!

US: Uh....
Iraq: Pwnt
US: No! We will bomb you!
Iraq: You can't do that!
US: Yes we can *bombs Fallujah*
Iraq: Oh Noes!
US: Oh Yeses!
Iraq: No!
US: Pwnt
Iraq: Time to blow up a hospital
US: No!
Iraq: *blows up hospital*
US: Well, only Iraqis died...
Iraq: W00T! I mean...aw..
US: *bombs*

[Tribesman]

Hey Capo , you got one bit right
US: Uh....

[kiwitt]

I have heard that members are induced to commit horrendous acts as part of the initiation, which if they came to light would ruin their careers and lives. This is held over them, to instill obedience to the order.

Still, I think these groups only have some influence on the Western world. China, India, Middle East, Africa and a few other pockets are certainly outside their influence.

This is what the western elites fear. Note, they are trying to bring China into the club, India is nearly there. But these countries are so big and operate so differently to the Western Model, it is very difficult. And as to the Arabs, see the Terrorists actions. Not really acting for the elite in my opinion.

[doc_bean]

I have heard that members are induced to commit horrendous acts as part of the initiation, which if they came to light would ruin their careers and lives. This is held over them, to instill obedience to the order.

That would expose them all at once...

They're rich frat boys, don't expect too much from them

[drone]

There is one elite group that controls the world...

Who controls the British crown?
Who keeps the metric system down?
We do! We do!
Who leaves Atlantis off the maps?
Who keeps the martians under wraps?
We do! We do!
Who holds back the electric car?
Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star?
We do! We do!
Who robs the cave fish of their sight?
Who rigs every Oscars night?
We do! We do!

This song is the ancient drinking song for the Stonecutters. The Stonecutters are a 1500 year old secret organisation "who, since ancient times, have split the rocks of ignorance that obscure the light of knowledge and truth".

[yesdachi]

Want to know who really runs the world? Ask Mike Myers dad, Stuart Mackenzie (played by Mike Myers) from so I married an ax murder.

Stuart Mackenzie: Well, it's a well known fact, Sunny Jim, that there's a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, known as The Pentaveret, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers, and meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as The Meadows.

Tony Giardino: So who's in this Pentaveret?

Stuart Mackenzie: The Queen, The Vatican, The Gettys, The Rothschilds, *and* Colonel Sanders before he went heads up. Oh, I hated the Colonel with is wee *beady* eye! And that smug look on his face, "Oh, you're gonna buy my chicken! Ohhhhh!"

[GoreBag]

Classic.

"Heed! Get down! Look at that boy! He's like an orange on a pencil."

[Quietus]

Do you beilive elite groups control the world IE Free Masons Skull and Bones ETC

Bush and Kerry are members of Skull and Bones ( it's all a conspiracy ).

The problem with conspiracy theories are the lack of evidence. If these conspiracies have been going on for centuries now, then at least one would either cracked or left an evidence/proof by now.