Why...

[Just A Girl]

Why does beirut Prefer people to waste money than to allow me to Reply to a question,

Id say "a mod who will remain nameless" But its pointless as all u need to do is go look at 1 of my edited posts to see who i mean.

Any way. Back to the point.
I understand that i have agreed to stay out of the front room.
But occasionaly there are threads Like The MP3 player one,

Where i try to share valuable information with the people who ask a question,
Only for beirut to say:
"I prefer they suffer than let you post"
Or atleast thats what it looks like to me.

Some times i accidentaly post in the front room as i saw the topic from the main board,
So i dont really mind when he deletes those.

But With this mp3 player one.
I Left a message in the post. Requesting that if he was going to delete it Could he atlest repeat my words in his own way so the question was answerd.
He didnt seem to care,
And deleted the post bringing nothing of value to the topic.
I guess his own feelings come before org patrons.

His vendetta against me Can probably be discribed as:
"The Least i could expect",
so it Is not bothering me,
But i dont see how its fair for other patrons to be denied a civil reply which they would undoubtedly be greatfull for.



Its not like Im always in the front room,
Or that I play alot in the spam posts.
Cos i dont.
my posts in the front room have Mostly been in reply to a question.

I dunno if hes trying to punish me,
But its not me who is suffering if he is....

[Strike For The South]

This thread needs to be locked now. nothing good could of it. Shambles if you have a problem with Beirut take it up via PM not here I beilive we tried this

[Productivity]

I dunno if hes trying to punish me,
But its not me who is suffering if he is....

No it's us who are suffering from this exaggerated soap opera you are trying to drag out into public. It's clear that you have an inability to exist in a harmonious state with the org, these almost weekly threads about how you are so victimized are proof enough of that, quite frankly I think it would be best for all involved if you just left and didn't return, or at least only enter those areas where you know you are welcome, wherever they may be.

[Strike For The South]

No it's us who are suffering from this exaggerated soap opera you are trying to drag out into public. It's clear that you have an inability to exist in a harmonious state with the org, these almost weekly threads about how you are so victimized are proof enough of that, quite frankly I think it would be best for all involved if you just left and didn't return, or at least only enter those areas where you know you are welcome, wherever they may be.

I wish I was that articulate

[Kaiser of Arabia]

No it's us who are suffering from this exaggerated soap opera you are trying to drag out into public. It's clear that you have an inability to exist in a harmonious state with the org, these almost weekly threads about how you are so victimized are proof enough of that, quite frankly I think it would be best for all involved if you just left and didn't return, or at least only enter those areas where you know you are welcome, wherever they may be.

Better said that I could have.

Please, listen. We get it, we really do. But we're with Beirut. All we ever hear is "Poor Me" and "Poor Shambles" et cetera, and you know what? No once cares. Sorry to be so harsh, but I've been through hell and back with the Moderators and I don't make six billion posts on how it's unfair. Because, in the end, they are right something like 99.8% of the time.

No one feels bad for you. You broke forum rules and payed the price. That is the end of it.

[GoreBag]

So...you can't post in the Frontroom...at all? For no good reason? This isn't an official part of the punishment?

[Just A Girl]

So...you can't post in the Frontroom...at all? For no good reason? This isn't an official part of the punishment?

Dunno,

I was banned for the offence.
that account is gone. No problems with that, "My fault"

So i started to use trishes account, Just to appologize initialy,
But i was soon posting more frequently.

I then posted in the front room and beirut pm'd me.
I agreed to stay out of his way, and not post in the front rooom. Ocasionaly i do.
And i noticed he deletes my posts.

I dont really mind,
Nothing of value usualy resides in the front room,

but on this 1 topic there was a valid reason for a post to be made.
And i dont see why he couldnt have taken the time To atleast Reitterate the words of warning i had taken the time to provide.
It was not in my benafit at all, And was purley to the benafit of other patrons.
But now all thats there is my sig.

So dunno.
How is that Me being punished?
And how is it a pitty me story?

Just trying to bring a situation to light,

And honestly Pm's dont do squat.

So obviously a public post is the safest way for me to discuss Any matter pertaining to the situation.

and as for weekly threads?
i beleve this is the 1st thread i have started about the matter.

Anything els is probably a reply.

[Duke John]

You insulted a moderator several times, put porn onto a family forum. You got banned from the Org. That you can return under a different account should be seen as a privilige and it's up to the Org to set the boundaries, not you. You got your chance.

[Productivity]

So...you can't post in the Frontroom...at all? For no good reason? This isn't an official part of the punishment?

I think you'll find that he isn't allowed to access ANY forum, and it is for no good reason that he is allowed to use a secondary account to bypass this ban.

[Beirut]

I dont really mind,
Nothing of value usualy resides in the front room,

You're wrong, something of value does reside there - the Org. members.

[Mithrandir]

If you make a deal not to post somewhere, don't post there.

It's not about who get a disadvantage of the post being deleted, it's a bout the agreement.

ps: If it were up to me I'd permanantly ban you from The org. Not only the forums but the site as well. You've disgraced the Org with your filthy pictures and obscene language.

[Templar Knight]

I agreed to stay out of his way, and not post in the front rooom. Ocasionaly i do. And i noticed he deletes my posts.

Well theres the catch. You made a deal with Beirut not to post in the frontroom and then you break the deal by posting there. It doesn't matter what you posted, what matters is that you said you wouldn't.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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My suggestion, ShambleS, if you care to listen, reregister as a junior member and start over. You are dead wrong and there is no point in trying to defend the lost territory; it won't help you, it won't help ORG.

IMHO Just A Girl's account should be suspended too. It's not kind for a community member, towards her community, willingly let her identity be forged, no matter in good intent or not.
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[Viking]

BrutalDictatorship is gone, you are not. You were both banned.

[Just A Girl]

BrutalDictatorship. Obviously dosent want to be here.
I on the other hand Like to be here.

Im not complaining that i cant post.
I Just wanna know Why he decided that the question asked didnt need an answer.

I wouldnt care if he repeted what i said in his words Just so people were given a reply.

And Mouzafph*
You know Il accept your staments, And although in fact it seems Reasonable,
Id prolly Just Buy some 1 elses account from em
b4 i made a new 1.
Thats the good thing about being able to email members.

[Templar Knight]

buy someones account?

[Strike For The South]

BrutalDictatorship. Obviously dosent want to be here.
I on the other hand Like to be here.

Im not complaining that i cant post.
I Just wanna know Why he decided that the question asked didnt need an answer.

I wouldnt care if he repeted what i said in his words Just so people were given a reply.

And Mouzafph*
You know Il accept your staments, And although in fact it seems Reasonable,
Id prolly Just Buy some 1 elses account from em
b4 i made a new 1.
Thats the good thing about being able to email members.

Boy are you thick in the head? You said no frontroom. you posted. you face the consquences. Beirut is a damn good moderator just leave it be. This is a forum ok its private people run it becuase it is fun. So ethier aplogize and start over or leave the mods have already been way leinant with you.

[Just A Girl]

Boy are you thick in the head? You said no frontroom. you posted. you face the consquences. Beirut is a damn good moderator just leave it be. This is a forum ok its private people run it becuase it is fun. So ethier aplogize and start over or leave the mods have already been way leinant with you.

Who died and made you Some 1 id listen 2?
I wont listen to Any idiot,

I may respect what some patrons say and I may accept there words of concil and Think about what they say.
You are most definatly NOT one of those patrons,

You and your lil cronies just spam and Troll.
So Really, Its not like im goint to even listen to you.

So why waste your time talking to me,

[Strike For The South]

whatever man you cleary broke the rules stop whining

[Quietus]

ShambleS,

First of all, it is a bit unfair to dangle Just A Girl's account like this.

I don't know the exact .ORG policy. But the best way to change the status quo IMO is to ask from the Admins/Mods for conditions enabling you to reregister again. Conditions (ie. owning fault in detail, apology etc).

Depending if the Admins/Mods wishes to level these conditions.
and you accepting these conditions.

[Monk]

ShambleS, let me say up front i don't know you and have not conversed with you enough here or anywhere to know what sort of character you are. The only thing i have to draw on is the fact that you, in anger/pick-your-emotion, posted, lets call them, "bad pictures" all over the .org because you had a despute with a single person of the mod team. Such a thing should have been carried out in private where you two could have worked everything out, but you chose to air your grievances all over the site.

That is a huge act of disrespect and a dishonor to not just the forums but the site as a whole. So to me, the fact that you are talking of respect to other patrons holds no weight with me..

I'm not saying you haven't been good since them, believe me. I haven't heard anything bad in quite some time, and i've noticed you trying to contribute back to the .org. However, imho, this thread is a mistake, as it gives a bad impression of your overall intentions. Good or ill, whichever they may be.

if there's a problem with Beirut or the rest of the mod team, solve that privately. Threads like these are looked down upon as people trying to "drum up support" for their cause; not saying that is what you are doing but some could take it that way. As i'm sure you've gathered already.

[drone]

I don't know much about the conflict here, but if you have an agreement to not post in the Frontroom, that should be obeyed. I know you are trying to help, but a deal is a deal. In cases like this (answering a question), it might be best if you were to PM your response to the member in question instead of posting in the thread. If multiple people want to know, you could request one member to post your solution or recommendations in the thread so all benefit.

Just my $0.02.

[Just A Girl]

Access this account,
and snd a PM to Beirut or tossa,
And you will be ignored,

So Public post it is,

And i did try to resolve the origional Matter in pm's
But it was like talking to a brick wall. Which also insulted you.
So why should i bother with PM's That just get ignored or lead to an insult, Which then leads to the org suffering.

Atleast With a public post like this,
the people in question arent being patronizing or belitteling in responce to my statments. So it is infact the lesat distruptive course of action i could take,
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I will bear in mind to PM the person who asked the question in the future,

But i still think its a bit underhanded To deny patrons the information they asked for over a greivance with another patron.

this post is sposed to be more like...
Please use your discression when deleting my posts,
Than
Please dont delete my posts.

There must be a threshold somewhere That if i tell some 1 something Importaint enough.
That the mods sould Need to weigh the pro's and cons of having my words there.
I dont care if they delete my posts then repeat what i said, leting People think some 1 els helped them.
aslong as the answer is given It dosent matter who gave it IMO.

[Mongoose]

"That just get ignored or lead to an insult"

Wait a minute....weren't you the one who started the insults?

Moderators are only human. If you punch them, it's going to hurt them, and you should expect to be punched back. If you walk over to a police officers and kick them in their shins, what the hell do you think they're going to do?

[Mouzafphaerre]

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ShambleS, all of this started when you couldn't control your rage, and sadly it's happening again. I know the feel, I've had very bad experiences with other people elsewhere (with whom we are even closer friends since then), so I'm not giving a sermon, speaking from experience.

It's fine that you want to be here. Honestly, few people would want you out of here if you managed to act properly. By proper act I mean taking a break, letting the bad incidents fade off in memories and trying a restart.

When something really pisses me off here at the ORG (Backroom) or elsewhere I exile myself for a decided period of time --like a week or longer. See, if you did that to let the rage cool off at first place we wouldn't be needing to make this discussion. No matter, you can do it now. Time will help.

Take a leave, give yourself some time to sort things out and keep your offline contact with the obvious orgahs in the meantime.
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[Just A Girl]

but im not angry,
Im not arguing here.

Im even gonna ignore the "You started the insults" post above.
Although i could go in to lengthy detail about what happend.

Fair enough i snap at people who try to coax me in to a flame war.
and i supose my initial post caused that reaction.

but never the less my pms do get ignored.
And although i have not gained anything or made any diference with this post,
atleast i know that my sentiments havent just been deleted away.

So im happy with that.

[GoreBag]

Barf. Let's all take sides.

Look. Either ban the account or let Shambles post. This on-the-fence attitude would be immensely irritating for me were I in Shambles' position, not to mention the private deal going on being an abuse of moderator privileges.

[Just A Girl]

I dont care about posting in the front room.
I dont mind the deal Either, Its fair enough.
just this occasion could have been considerd an exeption or handled slightly diferently imo.

[Simetrical]

buy someones account?

I would totally sell my account to ShambleS for $100. He could do whatever he wanted with it, get it banned, anything, I don't care. I mean, damn, money is money.

[KukriKhan]

I dont care about posting in the front room.
I dont mind the deal Either, Its fair enough.
just this occasion could have been considerd an exeption or handled slightly diferently imo.

So says a hijacked account.

meh.