Welcome to CCTV-land

[Adrian II]

What do you (and Brits in particular) think of this British year-round car surveillance scheme? Every journey by every car will be monitored and timed, and the record will be held for two years. The Police National Computer in Hendon, North London, will store 35 million number-plate "reads" per day.

You guys must feel really safe now.

Link: Independent

[drone]

I caught that article on Slashdot. I think this can be summed up in one word:

double-plus-un-good.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Just another Labour wonder, right JAG?

[Sjakihata]

I caught that article on Slashdot. I think this can be summed up in one word:

double-plus-un-good.

no, it's a smart way to catch the suicider bombers when the investigation starts after the suicide attack - a very good idea.

[Strike For The South]

yay facism

[TheSilverKnight]

yay facism

So this is Fascism, eh STFS...tell me, if you ever get searched by the Department of Homeland Security, then what will it be? (referring somewhat to the article at UMass about a student being searched for checking out the Little Red Book)

[Strike For The South]

So this is Fascism, eh STFS...tell me, if you ever get searched by the Department of Homeland Security, then what will it be? (referring somewhat to the article at UMass about a student being searched for checking out the Little Red Book)

I dont like that ethier you commie

[TheSilverKnight]

I dont like that ethier you commie

So because I speak out against something I'm a commie? That's real nice. Give me evidence for the fact that I'm a commie and maybe I'll agree.

Btw, for my opinion on this, I think it's split half/half good/bad...it's bad for people who have bad motives, good for people who wish to be safe, I'm pretty much on the good side, I have no motives to do anything to the country, but I don't like having everything I do monitored...that's just a little creepy...

[Strike For The South]

So because I speak out against something I'm a commie? That's real nice. Give me evidence for the fact that I'm a commie and maybe I'll agree.

Btw, for my opinion on this, I think it's split half/half good/bad...it's bad for people who have bad motives, good for people who wish to be safe, I'm pretty much on the good side, I have no motives to do anything to the country, but I don't like having everything I do monitored...that's just a little creepy...

You wernt speaking out agianist it. You thought I was blind sheep and appuladed the libaray from saving us from an Islamo-facist.

This is a clear invasion of rights and privacy and hope they appeal it and burn into 80 peices

[TheSilverKnight]

You wernt speaking out agianist you thought I was blind and appuladed the libaray from saving us from an Islamo-facist.

This is a clear invasion of rights and privacy and hope they appeal it and burn into 80 peices

That sounds a good plan. Sorry for not speaking correctly...it's 12:56 A.M. Problem solved, no dispute between us then. I apologise Still wanna come over for a Christmas party? (sorry for hijacking the thread too )

[Adrian II]

... agianist ... appuladed ... libaray ... peices.

Seen the inside of a library lately, Strike?


EDIT
The inside of a bottle, more likely.

[Crazed Rabbit]

no, it's a smart way to catch the suicider bombers when the investigation starts after the suicide attack - a very good idea.

Last time I checked, the best investigation in the world doesn't prevent a suicide attack.

And I wonder how many are going to blissfully give up their rights because the government tells them its for their own good? Who'll be the first to pull out the old 'if you're good you have nothing to fear' line?

The logical next step will be increased gov't monitering of all your activities. Internet sites, books you read, everything. Even if this did make you safer (I doubt it will, but it will give the government loads of information about your life), I'd rather live free or die trying. Better to go down fighting than cheerfully enable government tyranny.

Crazed Rabbit

[Strike For The South]

That sounds a good plan. Sorry for not speaking correctly...it's 12:56 A.M. Problem solved, no dispute between us then. I apologise Still wanna come over for a Christmas party? (sorry for hijacking the thread too )

Yay party!!!!!!11111111111


Adrian you cant go inside a botle

[Kanamori]

... Let's party like it's 1984. Hey, hey! ...

I could continue but for my own sake, I don't care about the rest of you, I'll stop.



PS: It's my duty to post this link whenever some Orwellian connection is made. So, here it is.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

I dont like that ethier you commie

Look who's talking.

[Reverend Joe]

tell me, if you ever get searched by the Department of Homeland Security, then what will it be? (referring somewhat to the article at UMass about a student being searched for checking out the Little Red Book)

Uh... facism?

[TheSilverKnight]

Uh... facism?

...true...damn me and my early morning mind asleep mindset! I'm off to bed. cheers

[Marcellus]

Heh, they probably record all this stuff already. Just now they're telling us about it.

[Adrian II]

... Let's party like it's 1984. Hey, hey! ...

I could continue but for my own sake, I don't care about the rest of you, I'll stop.



PS: It's my duty to post this link whenever some Orwellian connection is made. So, here it is.

Excellent write-up, Kanamori. You can easily tell who has and who has not read Orwell these days. The non-readers are a majority and they always claim Orwell as an ally for the sandal-bearers, the pacifists and the obsessive anti-fascists.

"Big Brother" and "doublethink" and "thought police" are frequently cited as contributions to the language. They are, but they belong to the same category as "liar" and "pervert" and "madman." They are conversation-stoppers. When a court allows videotape from a hidden camera to be used in a trial, people shout "Big Brother." When a politician refers to his proposal to permit logging on national land as "environmentally friendly," he is charged with "doublethink." When a critic finds sexism in a poem, she is accused of being a member of the "thought police." The terms can be used to discredit virtually any position, which is one of the reasons that Orwell became everyone's favorite political thinker. People learned to make any deviation from their own platform seem the first step on the slippery slope to "1984."

He was a brilliant cultural critic ('I believe also that totalitarian ideas have taken root in the minds of intellectuals everywhere, and I have tried to draw these ideas out to their logical consequences') and occasionally a very good writer (as Menand observes: 'Orwell's prose was so effective that it seduced many readers into imagining, mistakenly, that he was saying what they wanted him to say, and what they themselves thought'').

Excellent journalism, on a par with Orwell's own. Penguin has published his essays and journalism in four nice, phat volumes which I would highly recommend to anyone who is interested in Orwell's 'inner workings'.

Thanks for the link.

[Adrian II]

Yay party!!!!!!11111111111


Adrian you cant go inside a botle

But you can see inside if you drink the contents to the last drop.

[InsaneApache]

The inside of a bottle, more likely.

Bugger I spat me tea all over my keyboard.

[English assassin]

I caught that article on Slashdot. I think this can be summed up in one word:

double-plus-un-good

A first class post, to which I cannot usefully add anything.

[Kanamori]

If you appreciated that one, I think you'll like this one: Cat People.

[drone]

Those are great links, Kanamori. One of the main problems with Orwell misconceptions (at least here in the States), is that they force you to read 1984, Animal Farm, or both in the 9th or 10th grade (age ~15), and then nobody reads him again. In my mind, that is too young an age to have to comprehend what he is trying to say. So everybody has read the books, but refer to them with a younger, more black and white mindset. Once you become a cynical old man, the books make perfect sense.

[solypsist]

[BDC]

Woohoo. So next time we get bombed it won't be due to the police missing what's going on, it will be due to them filling all their time charging traffic-law breakers. Great.

Love the focused and effective use of the public purse. Blair will be remembered a long time...

[Uesugi Kenshin]

Every camera should be placed like that.....

Nice find Soly!

[JAG]

Just another Labour wonder, right JAG?

Unfortunately it is not and because Labour tends to put measures like this to the forefront of public debate I am also a member of Liberty a human rights pressure group which makes sure Labour can't get insane policies like this through.

[Fragony]

Must be some nuclair powered computer to store all that data. Here in Holland we have them all over the freeway, and when the weather is good even manned mobile units, but the aim is more towards draining car-owners of their money rather then terrorism.