A Nerdy Question on LOTR

**Alexanderofmacedon** · 01-02-2006, 03:29

Uh...you know your LOTR don't you?...

Unfortunetly I can't say the same about myself. I'll put J.R.R's books on my "To read" list and I'll get back to you!

**Brutus** · 01-02-2006, 23:21

I thought that Middle Earth was more or less meant to be an ancient, mythical precursor of our own recorded history (with the West as Europe, Harad ('South') as Africa and Rhun ('East') as Asia), so I would imagine Middle Earth would be more and more about conflicts between men, as there are hardly any other races about: no more Elves, less and less Orcs, Ents dying out and Hobbits and Dwarves not showing themselves very much (and probably dying off as well). The Lord of the Rings already mentions Elessar and Eomer campaining in Rhun against the Easterlings, I suppose this would have continued under Eldarion and beyond?

**Dutch_guy** · 01-02-2006, 23:40

I dont think that Middle-Earth would know War for a very long time to come,not taking in to consideration the aftermath of the War of the Ring.

I also do not think that with Aragorn and Arwen as his parents the child would grow to be spoiled.

My opinion on the matter.

**Gregoshi** · 01-03-2006, 05:40

I know there is some stuff Tolkien wrote to connect Middle Earth with England and the world we know. I haven't read any yet, just some skimming in the book stores and a section of The Book of Lost Tales 2, which I haven't finished reading yet. It talks of a man named Eriol or AElfwine (the "A" and the "E" are joined together but I don't know how to make that character) who sailed from England to Tol Eressea - the elven island just off the coast of Valinor. However, with the incomplete writings that Tolkien had done on this, men are rarely mentioned. Of the fate of the Men and the Fourth Age, I don't recall seeing, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist...

...and apparently there is some stuff. I just did a Google search and found this article on the Fourth Age, written by the folks that do the MERP game (Middle Earth Role Playing): Martinez Article From what I gather, Tolkien did write a few pages on a LOTR sequel called The New Shadow but abandoned it as uninteresting to him. There must be enough in the story beginnings and in letters to give some hints at the future of Men in the Fourth Age.

**Sjakihata** · 01-05-2006, 13:13

Originally Posted by Gregoshi

AElfwine (the "A" and the "E" are joined together but I don't know how to make that character)

Ælfwine

ps. basic danish character

**lars573** · 01-05-2006, 04:44

Originally Posted by Brutus

I thought that Middle Earth was more or less meant to be an ancient, mythical precursor of our own recorded history (with the West as Europe, Harad ('South') as Africa and Rhun ('East') as Asia), so I would imagine Middle Earth would be more and more about conflicts between men, as there are hardly any other races about: no more Elves, less and less Orcs, Ents dying out and Hobbits and Dwarves not showing themselves very much (and probably dying off as well). The Lord of the Rings already mentions Elessar and Eomer campaining in Rhun against the Easterlings, I suppose this would have continued under Eldarion and beyond?

Actually Aragorn made quite a bit or war during his first years on the throne of Gondor. He was re-establishing the Gondor of the early third age after all. His campagin to restore Arnor wouldn't have been short or bloodless. He would have after all had to crush any tribe in former Arnor that didn't bend knee and swear alligance to him. Also he did campagin against the Haradrim and re-took Umbria for Gondor IIRC.

**Weebeast** · 01-05-2006, 13:20

They seemed to be wise, so I think they would've educated their kids well. Would their kids become spoiled or kind?

Well, I'm guessing the children would be a great fighter and/or leader. I wonder if Arwen still had her regular power after she officially became mortal. The kids should at least inherit her talent.

It says that the gap between our time and end of Third Age is 6000 years.

**Sjakihata** · 01-05-2006, 13:32

I think their children would be two, a girl and a boy. The girl wants to be like her father and the boy like his mother, a fighter girl and a sorcerer boy

**Papewaio** · 01-06-2006, 05:05

Slight OT:

Is there such a thing as a non-nerdy question on LOTR?

**drone** · 01-07-2006, 23:20

After Saruman tricked Rhadagast into sending Gandalf to Saruman's trap at Isengard, I don't remember him being mentioned anymore.

Originally Posted by Papewaio

Slight OT:

Is there such a thing as a non-nerdy question on LOTR?

How about this one: Does Peter Jackson have a swimming pool filled with cash, or does he just light cigars with $100 bills?

**lars573** · 01-06-2006, 17:03

Originally Posted by Sjakihata

I think their children would be two, a girl and a boy. The girl wants to be like her father and the boy like his mother, a fighter girl and a sorcerer boy

Hey, hey only angels can be Wizards in LOTR.

Originally Posted by Papewaio

Slight OT:

Is there such a thing as a non-nerdy question on LOTR?

Probably not. Beyond is it good or not?

**Monarch** · 01-06-2006, 22:14

Well I tried reading the books after watching TFOTR film, but I just couldnt get into it. Kinda more difficult than a pleasure to read. So I put it down and just watched the other two films. This was when I was a few years ago now, when I was like 12 so I do have an excuse for putting them down. If I had the time I would probably enjoy reading them now. The mythology behind it I find is very interesting, I've read the wikipedia articles on the mytho and stories that are included and mentioned, very interesting.