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    Hey, Everyone I was just wondering which faction you think is the most annoying or the one you hate the most?]


    For me it's probably the Sicilians and the Hungarians.
    The sicilians always take Naples from me when I'm the Byzantines, and they also blockade me but its like they don't attack anyone else they're allied with evryone but the always refuse my offers.


    Then the Hungarians because they always break our alliance, they'll come in and take greece and Bulgaria and serbia towards the end of the game, also they just always seem to invade at the worst possible times like when I'm up in Poland fightin the Horde, it really sucks.

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    the french or the hungarians. france because of their constant, limitless supply of troops. hungary because they always backstab at the worst time with those stupid szhelecky things...those horse archer units they get early on

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    I guess whichever faction I happen to play for :)
    I mean, it's constant backstabbing, agent infiltration, exploitation, assassinations and inquisition, bribes, uber-armies, natural intellect and general nastiness...

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    Haha yeah in my last campaign as the Turks, my own troops were my worst enemy. One year all of my generals mysteriously dropped from high loyalty to zero or at maximum 3 shields of loyalty. In order to make the following year's revolution bloodess I had to get rid of (read: disband) all my good generals since they were my only ones that were still loyal. Not fun.

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    Egypt. It's probably a coincidence, but this faction is ever the thorn in my side in MTW. At least 3 times I've been poised to initiate some grand strategic movement which will shatter the holdings of hostile princes and bring some vast swath of territory into my grasp, and in the very year before all this intricate machinery of conquest is to be set in motion they'll decide to attack me, sinking half my fleet, paralyzing my economy and generally messing everything up. Grr.

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    Egypt, I hated them in Rome and then when I got Medieval I hated them the most too.

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    the french for geting me excomunicated from the pope, When They attack me,!!!

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    The Golden Horde. I hate how they come and put there yellow stain on my nice deep red coloured Steeps. I hate fighting them, even if you win you still take a lot of losses because of all there missile units. I hate the fact that there dead bodies muck up nice river in Kiev, after they get pushed off the bridge. I just don't like the Horde.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byzantine_Fury
    Hey, Everyone I was just wondering which faction you think is the most annoying or the one you hate the most?
    All factions. With enough money and resources there´s no difference. It was the same in STW, MTW as in RTW. The Total War series diplomacy is a joke! They should take a field trip to Paradox (EUII), maybee they´ll learn something.

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    the French!!! always fighting me, always annoying me, always getting me excommunicated, they'd probably manage all of that if i started as the Russians! i wipe them out as fast as possible without any warning these days.

    the Almohads, mainly cos they can field Almohad UM, which has repeatedly embarrassed me by casually walking all over my troops while sneering at my pathetic attempts to kill them.

    and...the Pope. because he's there when you don't need him.
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    VIVA LA FRANCE!!! . Everytime I'm the English on NORMAL, they take the British Isle right away. I lost it within 10 turns. I made enough boats to get my troops over to Norway but that was not really how I wanted my game to go. I easily took it over and then Sweden. The Danes almost took over ALL of the HRE and they weren't expecting an attack from behind. I took 3 of their "Country's"(he he I forgot what they're called in this game) and made it back to French lands and my Coveted British Isle. I had great troops from bribing Rebels and Attacked French Lands. Scotland rebelled against the French so It was Easy to take Scotland. Anyway. I took my main army through the British Isles and took it back. I still do not have Ireland(the French have their Biggest Army guarding it). Now I am hoping to start a rebelion there and weaken the army so I can go in for the kill. That is why I hate France.
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    Hmm in my last post I forgot the French, how could I ?!

    As the English, I never accept an alliance, never even a ceasefire, and they are always the first to leave the map ;)

    I usually make a pact with the HRE, to make it a little easier to destroy the French.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
    Hmm in my last post I forgot the French, how could I ?!

    As the English, I never accept an alliance, never even a ceasefire, and they are always the first to leave the map ;)

    I usually make a pact with the HRE, to make it a little easier to destroy the French.

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    Thanks. I don't know why I hate the French so much.
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    The Spanish and these CURSED Jinettes. I hate nothing more then battling a full stack of these atrocities. That is why I like the Alhomads, 3 turn instant death for Spain YAY.

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    The Sicilians. They never seem to go anywhere or do anything but piss off mighty empires (mine, usually) and disrupt troop movements and then squirrel themselves away, avoiding conflict for a decade, then start it all over again.

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    yeah, forgot the mafiosi. they're guaranteed to start a shipping war at the most annoying moment. in some games they start to take over everything east of Italy as well, they've even turned up in Austria in my current English campaign.
    i don't know about in your games, but in mine they're usually quite teched up and full of really good heirs as well...
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    Egyptians and Aragonese. Out of all factions they seem to break alliances and stab me in the back more often than anyone else.
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    The French and the Sicilians. The French because I love playing the English(which I play 90% of the time). The Sicilians because of the shipping wars previously mentioned.

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    The Pope.
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    Most hated faction? The Papal States and its Pope that never seems to die
    When playing a Catholic faction, I get excommunicated whenever I start conquering the provinces of an attacking faction, and while playing a non-catholic one, that evil wretch keeps calling for crusades against me
    But thats when the hordes of assasins that become accumulated near the late game become useful!

    And the Almohands are pretty bad too. I've seen them conquering all of Western Europe (including Spain, France and parts of the British Isles (!)) a few times when playing as Poland

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    Any AI faction.

    They won't make peace with you when they are beaten. You end up having to assassinate, inquisite, or conquer and lose....to wipe them out so they'll leave you the flip alone. I get tired of being attacked at 1-63 odds by someone who can't see the writing on the wall. Especially if I'm playing GA and am not seeking vast amounts of territory.

    But, since this is meant to be more specific........HRE......they're the worst, not only because they are hard to kill off, but even when they come back they almost go out of their way to attack you.
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    In VI As welsh I hate ALL THE FACTIONS!!!
    GET OF MY LAND!!!!

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    so true! leave my sheep alone...

    particularly Mercia, they 'panic-build' vast armies (like, 5000+ men) of total crap and then sit on your borders doing nothing and being rich and pale blue.
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    most irratating factions: papal and golden horde...

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    Most annoying in my limited experience

    The French are the biggest backstabbers,and also in my last campaign as Almo I found the Turks to be damn treacherous gits.
    As I play more I think half of my trouble is to do with the Papacy always stirring things,a gunloader but never pulling the trigger

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    Definetely the Spanish, because of their massed Jinettes, the single most annoying unit in MTW. Probably Aragon as well, because they will always attack Toulouse when I own it. They don't survive for much longer after that, but it always ruins my plans and loses most of my alies.

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    Te pope.

    Only way to beat him is to constantly assasinate him, that will get you unexcommunated...And once you try to conquer him he just keeps on popping up with 4-5 stacks of units from hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byzantine_Fury
    Hey, Everyone I was just wondering which faction you think is the most annoying or the one you hate the most?]


    For me it's probably the Sicilians and the Hungarians.
    The sicilians always take Naples from me when I'm the Byzantines, and they also blockade me but its like they don't attack anyone else they're allied with evryone but the always refuse my offers.


    Then the Hungarians because they always break our alliance, they'll come in and take greece and Bulgaria and serbia towards the end of the game, also they just always seem to invade at the worst possible times like when I'm up in Poland fightin the Horde, it really sucks.
    The Italians. They litter the area with ships and they even port-invade you if you are not careful.

    edit: To deal with the Pope's faction: let them return but always fight, capture and ransom him but let the other Papal stack take any other province ( by just retreating a unit or two into your castle). After the ransom, eliminate the faction once again. Repeat.
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    In no particular order, I'd have to say my least favorite factions are:

    1. Sicilians
    2. Turks
    3. Sicilians
    4. Pope
    5. Sicilians
    6. Italians

    7. Oh yeah, in case I forgot....the Sicilians! Just as some MTW players are obsessed with taking out the French, one of my goals in any game is to destroy the Sicilians as soon as possible. I really, REALLY, don't like them!
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