Saddams Secret Tapes, Proof of WMDs?

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 02-09-2006, 08:01

There going to be verified. If their not real it will come out.

**Watchman** · 02-09-2006, 12:24

Oh. How exciting.
...does anyone really even care anymore ? I'm willing to bet most of it consists of the participants shooting their mouths and telling the Arabic versions of the sorts of bad jokes that now tend to fly back and forth between underlings and overlings.

**Taffy_is_a_Taff** · 02-09-2006, 14:08

Originally Posted by Watchman

Oh. How exciting.
...does anyone really even care anymore ?

the amount of idiots with cute bumper stickers that read "nobody died when Clinton lied" suggest that people do.

**rory_20_uk** · 02-09-2006, 14:15

"Intentions"??!? Is that it? He's not allowed to say he'd possibly like some (and let's not forget there are loads of other countries doing a hell of a lot more than thinking wistfully they'd like some).

If they are genuine it'd better a lot better than what it seems in the first report.

**solypsist** · 02-09-2006, 14:56

So a guy who's STILL chasing the WMD argument got some tapes from one guy who got the tapes from another guy... He knows what's on the tapes, stating that they "will be able to provide a few definitive answers to some very important - and controversial - weapons of mass destruction questions." yet at the same time:

"Mr. Hoekstra said he is not yet prepared to say President Bush was premature in calling off the hunt for the weapons last year, but conceded that his inquiries may lead him to that conclusion if some of the leads offered to his committee check out. He also said the White House has been supportive of his inquiry."

I'm curious too, but I suspect that this is Hoekstra making a mountain out of a molehill in hopes of attracting attention to his own personal cause, Iraq's supposed WMD.

**Vladimir** · 02-09-2006, 15:11

Originally Posted by Watchman

Oh. How exciting.
...does anyone really even care anymore ?

Classic.

**Watchman** · 02-09-2006, 15:48

Well, the issue is way past its sell-by date.

**Taffy_is_a_Taff** · 02-09-2006, 16:02

Originally Posted by Watchman

Well, the issue is way past its sell-by date.

Please tell that to those people with the stickers, I drive up close to read their bumpers and it's the same old stickers, BUY some new stickers!!! If I'm going to risk causing an accident then I at least want a chuckle at a new sticker.

**Watchman** · 02-09-2006, 16:08

You filthy American partisan politics are no concern of mine.

Now shoo, I'm going to sip some red wine to go with good cheese while listening Vivaldi.

**drone** · 02-09-2006, 17:11

Secret, candid tapes of Saddam and his aides discussing WMD.

All these tapes will prove is that Saddam wanted WMDs (no surprise there). They will not prove that he actually had them. The common opinion these days is that his aides lied to him about the progress on his weapons. If this is the case, the tapes will prove nothing except desire.

**Kaiser of Arabia** · 02-12-2006, 01:37

Originally Posted by Watchman

You filthy American partisan politics are no concern of mine.

Now shoo, I'm going to sip some red wine to go with good cheese while listening Vivaldi.

We're not Chirac.

Nah, it won't matter. The left will say we fabricated them. Which would be true if this was the Clinton Administration. What he would have done was strapped a nuke on a camel's back and put a kid in a turban next to it (Kudos to Louis Black).

God I hate Clinton.

**Seamus Fermanagh** · 02-09-2006, 15:52

This won't have much more impact than a fart in church.

The WMD issue is no longer current. There are no WMDs and haven't been for years. Bush either knowingly lied in order to foment conflict with Saddam's Iraq or his administration was near criminally negligent in evaluating the data that led him to pull the trigger.

Either case indicates that the war against Iraq was begun on false pretenses and that the thousands of Iraqi deaths, thousands of coalition deaths, and the inevitable civil war that will begin in earnest 20 minutes after the coalition pulls out -- with its 10's of thousands of deaths -- can be laid at the feet of Cheney, Bush and the other neocons.

The verdict of history has already been made.

!NOT!

In other words, Gawain, too much time has elapsed and too many viewpoints have crystalized on this subject. While some of the thinking libs -- AdrianII for one example -- will wait until the data has been released, evaluated, and then add it into the hopper, most won't bother. Anything short of a Hans Blix source (any coalition source is too tainted and the assumption would be that it was a fix) opening up a LARGE desert cache of nerve toxin or Saddam buying his life by revealing such caches won't be credited. You and I might care, but ....