So who's gonna replace the Yuezhi?

[oudysseos]

Or is it a secret?

[Xarkdon]

why do they need to be replaced? i think its fun to have a faction in the middle of nowhere...

[PseRamesses]

why do they need to be replaced? i think its fun to have a faction in the middle of nowhere...

Well, we´ve tried that "nowhere". Couldn´t we try out in the middle of "nowhere Sahara" next. I´m serious. I´d love to take charge of a highly mobile and deadly fast Bedouin cav/ camel army and raid the hell out of the Ptolemies and Carthagininans, wouldn´t you?

[Xarkdon]

true, but I dont know anything about the Yuezhi I am mainly curious why they are being taken out.

[oudysseos]

I don't know if they are- but there is another thread on which the conclusion seems to be that they weren't present in our time period. And I think one of the dev team said that they're out- but I'm not sure. Who do you think should replace them if that is the case?

[khelvan]

There are very few surprises left in EB - this may be one of them, the identity of who replace the Yuezhi.

[Ludens]

why do they need to be replaced? i think its fun to have a faction in the middle of nowhere...

There was a lot of discussion in this topic: basically, the argument runs that the Yeuzhi most likely were not on the EB campaign map (although this is debatable) and even if they were, they were far more concerned with their enemies in the east than with expanding to the west. They did eventually turn west, and conquered Bactria, but only after having been defeated in the east. To properly represent their situation, the map has to be expanded to include China and their other Eastern enemies.

Sparta would be nice

Sparta on it's own doesn't stand a chance. It is not the power it used, not by a long shot. The only way the Macedonians are going to find a strong challenge in conquering Greece is to place an Hellenic union on their path.

Personally, I think another German faction might be nice, or else another African or Arabian faction. As it is, these areas are conquered a bit too rapidly.

[the_handsome_viking]

What is the criteria for faction picking?

I mean I personally would like to have some way to make more Caledonian armies appear, so that it could really hit home just exactly why the Romans built Hadrians wall.

but by making them their own faction youd ultimatly be saying "this group of people could take over the world" and of course as we all know the people from that area of the world eventually do go on to take over the world after they mixed with the Irish "scotti" but thats besides the point.

The point is how much do we really know about the Caledonions? they were iron poor, didn't have much in the way of armor because of this, kind of like the Germanic tribes, but once again, despite this fact the Germanic tribes do go on to do really great things.

I guess from a gameplay point of view it would have to be a historical group of people that could produce heavy infantry or cavalry decent buildings and ultimatly be capable of taking over vast amounts of land or possibly even the entire known world.

[jerby]

what about the mauryans?(sp?)

[Ludens]

What is the criteria for faction picking?

Khelvan answered this question some time ago when defending the inclusion of the Casse (link):

We consider factions based on the following criteria, foremost among many others:

- Expansionist
- Affect across the world (not just around the mediterranean) in the timeframe
- Inability to be presented as rebels (through unique units and unrest)
- Amount of work already done
- People willing to do work for the faction

Of course, positioning is a factor; for instance, we would have loved to have had an Indian faction, but as most of the Indian lands are out of our scope, so too would an Indian faction be. No Mauryans in EB. The Yuezhi will probably have to go because of positioning.

This answers Jerby's question as well.

[the_handsome_viking]

Khelvan answered this question some time ago when defending the inclusion of the Casse (link):

This answers Jerby's question as well.

Thanks a lot.

[the_handsome_viking]

I'm Spartacus!!!

[jebes]

No, I'm Spartacus

[Moros]

No, I'm Spartacus

everybody is Spartacus, okay?
Now please let us not go to far with the spamming, will we?

[Spartiate]

I wouldn't mind seeing the Samnites as a faction in Italy but it would be outside the starting time of the mod as they were finally beaten some time around 290 B.C.I reckon it could be pre-Islamic Arabs or even the Saka or Sakae who were still giving the Parthians trouble in later years.

[john289]

I'm gonna bet on an Arabian faction.

1: Yuezhi have eastern culture
2: I remember an EB team member, I think Khevlan, saying they were going to do something with the Arabian peninsula
3: Arabia is just really, really open