Chef Ditches South Park, Citing Religious Intolerance

[Reenk Roink]

Bigoted? It mocks everyone!

Besides, like SoulForged mentioned, you need to have a sense of H-U-M-O-R

Really? Naaah... Wait, you're right. I do need a sense of humor. After all, now I can laugh when Cartman says "you stupid Jew" because it's in a context of humor . Hahaha . And after all, since they mock everyone, that makes it even less racist, maybe they'll drop one about Scientology, that will balance out the jew comment .

Wow, I've never laughed so hard in my life haha hoohoo hehe...



@ Fiz: That Church benefits rich and famous people...

[_Martyr_]

To be honest, I think early South Park was crude, rude and pretty unfunny. The last few seasons however have been fine tuned to perfection, formulated or not they are better than ever. Talk about nail on the head political satire! To call it bigotted is missing the point. They systimatically rip the piss out of everyone. If you pick one line out of one episode, sure it will look totally unacceptable. I agree, but then there will be hundreds of instances where the exact opposite party is being torn into. Sometimes I think they go too far, but its my choice if I want to watch it or not, and I watch it knowing that theres a good chance I might be offended, my choice though. The whole thing with Cartman and the Jews is mocking anti-semitism rather than jewish people. Everyone hates Cartman, he is an evil minded little fascist... Watch the episode entitled, "The Passion of the Jew", its a mock up of "The Passion of the Christ" and completely destroys Mel Gibson's film and the anti-semitic sentiment that was around at the time. If you cant laugh off a silly satirical cartoon, however ridiculous it is, then you are are reacting similarly to the Danish Cartoon rioters ...

[Reenk Roink]

To be honest, I think early South Park was crude, rude and pretty unfunny. The last few seasons however have been fine tuned to perfection, formulated or not they are better than ever. Talk about nail on the head political satire! To call it bigotted is missing the point. They systimatically rip the piss out of everyone. If you pick one line out of one episode, sure it will look totally unacceptable. I agree, but then there will be hundreds of instances where the exact opposite party is being torn into. Sometimes I think they go too far, but its my choice if I want to watch it or not, and I watch it knowing that theres a good chance I might be offended, my choice though. The whole thing with Cartman and the Jews is mocking anti-semitism rather than jewish people. Everyone hates Cartman, he is an evil minded little fascist... Watch the episode entitled, "The Passion of the Jew", its a mock up of "The Passion of the Christ" and completely destroys Mel Gibson's film and the anti-semitic sentiment that was around at the time. If you cant laugh off a silly satirical cartoon, however ridiculous it is, then you are are reacting similarly to the Danish Cartoon rioters ...

Nah, I haven't busted open any shop windows or overturned cars...However, some here are acting like those cartoonists with their support of free yet irresponsible and racist speech...

[Lemur]

Looks as though more Scientologists are pushing their weight around about this whole thing:

HI EXCLUSIVE! SCIENTOLOGIST TOM CRUISE BLACKMAILS VIACOM...

SCIENTOLOGIST TOM CRUISE BLACKMAILS VIACOM INTO PULLING THE "TRAPPED IN THE CLOSET" EPISODE OF SOUTH PARK

Sources from inside Paramount and South Park Studios report that parent company Viacom pulled last night's scheduled repeat of the high-rated "Trapped in the Closet" episode after the humorless Scientologist movie star Tom Cruise threatened to cancel all publicity for Mission Impossible:3 if Comedy Central aired the episode that satirizes Scientology and mocks his sexuality again.

Not only is this the first time that the South Park creators have been officially censored in their ten hit seasons with Comedy Central, Viacom officials also reportedly ordered Matt Stone and Trey Parker not to discuss the reason why their episode was cancelled.

The South Park boys are said to be angry, but will probably get revenge with the manner in which they deal with Scientologist Isaac Hayes' departure from the show.

Developing....

[KafirChobee]

"Woodlands Critters' Christmas" ..... say no more. 'bout wet my pants laughing.

Bottom line is, if one finds it offensive? There are like 200 other channels to watch.

As for Scientology, it is not a religion - it is a composite of phsychologic data (from all of them) compiled to make a "feel good" presentation to the weak minded. The episode nailed it for what it is, that may be the reason Tommy is upset - that a cartoon flayed them simply by showing the truth about a wouldbe religion.

[Kralizec]

What I wonder is, did Hayes quit his contract because of his own conscience or was he told to do so by his "superiors" in the church?

[Big_John]

"Woodlands Critters' Christmas"

the blood-orgy was a high-point of television, imo.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

They treated it no differently than they did Mormonism. They even had the little "flashbacks" with "This is what they really believe!" either flashed across the screen or sung out loud. Absolutely positively the absolute same thing. Incredible that he thinks that is ok but the scientology one isn't. Well, we know why he thinks they're different...

[drone]

"Woodlands Critters' Christmas" ..... say no more. 'bout wet my pants laughing.

Hail Satan!

[Soulforged]

SCIENTOLOGIST TOM CRUISE BLACKMAILS VIACOM INTO PULLING THE "TRAPPED IN THE CLOSET" EPISODE OF SOUTH PARK

Poor Cruise, so much money, so much fame, so much chicks, so much energy...and little brains.

[Lemur]

Yet more fallout: the South Park creators respond.

So, Scientology, you may have won THIS battle, but the million-year war for earth has just begun! Temporarily anozinizing our episode will NOT stop us from keeping Thetans forever trapped in your pitiful man-bodies. Curses and drat! You have obstructed us for now, but your feeble bid to save humanity will fail! Hail Xenu!!!

--Trey Parker and Matt Stone, servants of the dark lord Xenu.

[Soulforged]

So, Scientology, you may have won THIS battle, but the million-year war for earth has just begun! Temporarily anozinizing our episode will NOT stop us from keeping Thetans forever trapped in your pitiful man-bodies. Curses and drat! You have obstructed us for now, but your feeble bid to save humanity will fail! Hail Xenu!!!

--Trey Parker and Matt Stone, servants of the dark lord Xenu.

That's exactly what I mean, hilarious.

[kataphraktoi]

Hayes is a scientologist.

[Quietus]

In the confidential OT levels, Hubbard describes a variety of traumas commonly experienced in past lives. He also explained how to reverse the effects of such traumas. Among these advanced teachings, one episode that is revealed to those who reach OT level III has been widely remarked upon in the press: the story of Xenu, the galactic tyrant who first kidnapped certain individuals who were deemed "excess population" and loaded these individuals into space planes for transport to the site of extermination, the planet of Teegeeack (Earth). These space planes were said to have been copies of Douglas DC-8s, except with rocket engines. He then stacked hundreds of billions of these frozen victims around Earth's volcanoes 75 million years ago before blowing them up with hydrogen bombs and brainwashing them with a "three-D, super colossal motion picture" for 36 days, telling them lies of what they are and what the universe should be like and telling them that they are 3 different things: 'Jesus, God, and The Devil.' The traumatized thetans subsequently clustered around human bodies because they watched the motion picture together, making them think they are all the same thing, in effect acting as invisible spiritual parasites known as "body thetans" that can only be removed using advanced Scientology techniques. Xenu is allegedly imprisoned in a mountain by a force field powered by an eternal battery. He is said to be still alive today.

[Hurin_Rules]

Mocking such ideas as this isn't bigotry, but a public service.

South Park should be given the nobel prize for ending stupidity.

[Byzantine Prince]

Scientologists might be using hypnotic procedures to get people to join. I mean how is it possible for anyone to be that stupid?

[GoreBag]

Scientologists might be using hypnotic procedures to get people to join. I mean how is it possible for anyone to be that stupid?

A friend of mine went into a local church of Scientology and asked the people inside about "when he got to meet Maverick". At first, they didn't get it, but eventually, they understood and just told him to leave. I imagine the people who sign up are similar, but take the whole seriously, as opposed to how my friend acted.

[Hurin_Rules]

A couple of buddies of mine and I went into the church of scientology in Toronto (the one on Yonge St.) for their personality tests. We'd had a few beers and figured we'd have a laugh, but we all pretended to be deadly serious. They gave us all the tests, and afterwards we compared notes. They all said the same thing: your personality has some strengths and some weaknesses, and, coincidentally, the weaknesses are in areas where scientology can help.

What a coincidence!

Hail Xenu!

[Bartix]

South Par is not always funny.
It is not respecting any thing, so this is a bit good/bad mix.

It is very good at pointing fingers and show how stupid every one is.
This is great!
South Park never being anti semitic, but if some thing in jewish religion or culture is silly, they say so. Same for moslem, atheist and other.

It is some times very much harsh on liberals and actors.

[Mongoose]

Really? Naaah... Wait, you're right. I do need a sense of humor. After all, now I can laugh when Cartman says "you stupid Jew" because it's in a context of humor . Hahaha . And after all, since they mock everyone, that makes it even less racist, maybe they'll drop one about Scientology, that will balance out the jew comment .

Wow, I've never laughed so hard in my life haha hoohoo hehe...



@ Fiz: That Church benefits rich and famous people...

Yes, let's live in a word where no one can be mocked, and all forms of humor that are not deemed as PC are censored.

"Bigot"

One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

Since it consistently mocks all groups, it can't be bigoted. If you say otherwise, you're arguing against the dictionary. If you want ot to use a different definition of the word, then that's your problem.

[Reenk Roink]

Yes, let's live in a word where no one can be mocked, and all forms of humor that are not deemed as PC are censored.

Cool with me...

It would make the world a much better place too. People of different groups would laugh together instead of at each other, hate would go down, happyness would go up...

Perhaps comedians would start making jokes that don't have to be offensive to others...

Criticism of something is one thing. Hurtful mocking of it is another.

Since it consistently mocks all groups, it can't be bigoted. If you say otherwise, you're arguing against the dictionary. If you want ot to use a different definition of the word, then that's your problem.

Very well, since you wish to avoid the brunt of my criticism and waddle in to semantics, I will indulge with you.

I withdraw my earlier statement of South Park being bigoted. It was clearly not that by the strict denotation of the word.

I stand by my statements of it being:

-racist
-rude
-crude
-"non-constructive criticism"
-not funny

[GoreBag]

Hippie. The world wouldn't improve in anyway; it would just be bland, boring and pathetic.

[Lemur]

I read this morning that the premiere episode of the new season will be titled "The Return of Chef!" Can't wait to see what those perverts have up their sleeves ...

[Papewaio]

"Bigot"

One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

Since it consistently mocks all groups, it can't be bigoted. If you say otherwise, you're arguing against the dictionary. If you want ot to use a different definition of the word, then that's your problem.

By that definition Hayes was intolerant of those who differ but played a whole different tune when it was his religion that was the brunt of the jokes... so I stand by my original statement Hayes is a bigot.

[Kralizec]

It seems that Mongoose was arguing that South Park isn't bigotted, rather then defending Hayes.

[Mongoose]

Cool with me...

It's kinda subjective, though. Let's face it, muslims would get just as mad avout a negative article that went over the crimes against humanity that God has commited as they would over a cartoon making fun of Muhammad. Some people are just going to be offended if you say something they don't like.
(Note: not to single out muslims, alot of Christians would also get angry)

It would make the world a much better place too. People of different groups would laugh together instead of at each other, hate would go down, happyness would go up...

Perhaps comedians would start making jokes that don't have to be offensive to others...

Criticism of something is one thing. Hurtful mocking of it is another.

Why, why do hate freedom?!

Very well, since you wish to avoid the brunt of my criticism and waddle in to semantics, I will indulge with you.

I withdraw my earlier statement of South Park being bigoted. It was clearly not that by the strict denotation of the word.

I stand by my statements of it being:

Fair enough.

-racist

Well, who is it racist towards?

-rude

You mean the characters yelling at each other? I don't see what's wrong with that...

-crude

You mean the swearing? Everything that you couldn't say on this forum is censored, so I don't think that it's that big of a problem.

-"non-constructive criticism"

It's a cartooon.

-not funny

Subjective, but you're half right, I think that afew of the recent ones were boring compared to afew I saw a year ago, but I don't watch the show much.

[Marcellus]

I read this morning that the premiere episode of the new season will be titled "The Return of Chef!" Can't wait to see what those perverts have up their sleeves ...

Here we are... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4836286.stm

They must have had fun making that.

[Reenk Roink]

It's kinda subjective, though. Let's face it, muslims would get just as mad avout a negative article that went over the crimes against humanity that God has commited as they would over a cartoon making fun of Muhammad. Some people are just going to be offended if you say something they don't like.
(Note: not to single out muslims, alot of Christians would also get angry)

I really don't think so.

Why, why do hate freedom?!

Go Red Wings!

Well, who is it racist towards?

Jews, Blacks, etc...

It mocks these and other groups on the basis of their race...

You mean the characters yelling at each other? I don't see what's wrong with that...

I meant rudeness towards certain groups. Catholics, were very offended by the rude "Bloody Mary" episode, and groups took action.

You mean the swearing? Everything that you couldn't say on this forum is censored, so I don't think that it's that big of a problem.

Not the swearing, crude in it's animation, this one, with the "not funny" belong in my personal criticisms.

Subjective, but you're half right, I think that afew of the recent ones were boring compared to afew I saw a year ago, but I don't watch the show much.

^ Touche ^

[Strike For The South]

DID ANYONE SEE IT LAST NIGHT!

lol

[Major Robert Dump]

yeah, its a great episode. i'm not going to sit here and say they don't make jokes that could be construed as racist, tacky etc, but really I could care less because its funny. The movie was one of the greatest cinematic moments of all time, these guys aim to make fun of just about everyone and squaring off against them only means they make fun of you ever more, re: streisand

I don't like the cartoon nearly as much as I did when it came out and think its real hit and miss now, but i respect the creators for their sheer anti-hollywood mentality and the sparks that flew around the time they made Orgasmo and got into trouble with the lame MPAA (jack valance is a nutjob, met him, hes a nutjob)

they have enough soundbites of chef to last them a lifetime, its just a shame we will never hear any new songs along the lines of "my salty balls" from mr hayyes.

btw the scientology has ranks 1-9, cruise is an 8, at level 9 you are revealed "the truth", does anyone know of any level 9s? I'd really like to know the truth