My first thoughts about EB

[fallen851]

I'm not the only one to complain about the EDU file, it is a common complaint. How many threads have we gone over this?

I do not think there is a conspiracy against me to thwart my great ideas. I don't care if you like what I think. What upsets me is how you guys respond to criticism. It is not consistent, it is done on an ad hoc basis (see above quote by Telesos and The Wizard). Your vague, you change the subject, and claim authority (we've done the testing so we know what happens and you don't).

So what did I do? I went out and did the tests, did the research, and you're previous statesment are incorrect. But you guys never give up. QM has claimed in the past there is randomness in how the shield armor is applied (Macroi's thread in which he stated talking to EB memebers was like "pulling teeth"... I'm not the only one). I must have done at least 20 tests with the shield armor, and I found it is equal in melee combat to both the normal armor factor and the defensive skill factor, and 7/8ths as effective against missiles. That is not random. Is it weird? Sure, but if you do the tests, you figure out what is going on. Later in the conversations (ad hoc) QM stated he hadn't done tests in awhile, and he wouldn't have the time to do them, so the shield stats stayed the way they were, flawed. Why are they flawed? Because they are based on the untrue premise that the shield application has randomness.

Oddly enough, those who have criticized EB have began very cordial, but when the EB simply argues with the methods I outlined above, people become irrate. Then of course the EB team lays on the "personal attack!" key they have must have on their keyboard. Either that is happening (what I described above), or (as you might argue) people are coming on here and demanding things be changed, and when you prove them incorrect, they resort to personal attacks.

I don't care if you change things because I can change it myself, in fact I don't think many people care that much, they come on here to contribute to making this mod more realistic, and when they are on the recieving end of the personal attack key, they simply change it themselves and leave.

Now I will do what you said Ludens, and do comprehensive testing of the archery system, but let me tell you right now what I'm going to get for an answer "the archer stats are fine, they shouldn't be powerful". This is purely a judgement call. You may think it is realistic, you may think cavalry charging the rear of a unit and killing 5 men is realistic, I don't know what you think, but as long as you have that arguement, you guys have proven a willingness to use it. And you will always have that arguement, so all the criticism raised against you, by many others and myself, falls on deaf ears.

I personally believe many of the people who have criticized EB to the extent I have learned this lesson long before I did to simply give up. To them it simply isn't worth the time, and we have gone through thread after thread, and most them aren't around anymore. Perhaps I was harsh when I said people were "zealots" of EB, but it seems they come into a thread and then start ranting about "Your not using the units correctly!" completing disregarding the idea the unit could be flawed!

If your not willing to see a problem, you won't see it.

You guys don't want to see the problems in the EDU text, and even more importantly, you want to think you guys are very cordial when dealing with criticism. Well, then where are all the critics?