Europa Barbarorum fourm game

[Dayve]

The game can never end. If 6000 more people voted, there would still be 10 factions left. So therefore it is pointless. And also there are certain people here that feel the need to cancel out your vote everytime you vote. I did it once at the start of the game because i was just randomly picking out factions to give a - point to, and the last thing i saw before i posted was Iberia, so i gave it to that, but now everybody is doing it everytime anybody posts so i hereby abdicate.

[Copperhaired Berserker!]

Ah, here's a idea. From now on, if someone for example takes away a point from Iberia, you'll need to wait for 4 posts until you could have a point added onto Iberia. Makes it fair.

[Kralizec]

cASSE
Epeiros +1

Aedui: 10
Arche Seleukeia: 14
Baktria: 13
Epeiros: 28 +1 = 29
Getai: 18
Hayasdan: 10
Iberia: 8
Koinon Hellenon: 17
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 13
Romani: 18
Qarthadast: 22
Sweboz: 12

[Rodion Romanovich]

The game can never end. If 6000 more people voted, there would still be 10 factions left. So therefore it is pointless. And also there are certain people here that feel the need to cancel out your vote everytime you vote. I did it once at the start of the game because i was just randomly picking out factions to give a - point to, and the last thing i saw before i posted was Iberia, so i gave it to that, but now everybody is doing it everytime anybody posts so i hereby abdicate.

You're just disappointed because you couldn't make Romani win even when teaming up ... Then you come with your "moral" discussion to make others feel bad for voting up the factions you try to destroy to make Romani win, but the moment others stop voting down Romani you'll still continue to vote down all other factions and vote up Romani. Just remove the Romani and the game will be fair afterwards.

[Kralizec]

IMHO the game will be "won" once a faction exceeds the magical number of 30.

*coughEpeiroscough*

[Sdragon]

Epeiros -1
Ptolemaioi: +1

Aedui: 10
Arche Seleukeia: 14
Baktria: 13
Epeiros: 28
Getai: 18
Hayasdan: 10
Iberia: 8
Koinon Hellenon: 17
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 14
Romani: 18
Qarthadast: 22
Sweboz: 12

Shame that Casse are gone. I really liked their unique playing style.

[stalin]

You're just disappointed because you couldn't make Romani win even when teaming up ... Then you come with your "moral" discussion to make others feel bad for voting up the factions you try to destroy to make Romani win, but the moment others stop voting down Romani you'll still continue to vote down all other factions and vote up Romani. Just remove the Romani and the game will be fair afterwards.

we're supposed to vote for favorite factions, yours are:
Makedonia
getai
averni
eleutheroi
Quardthadast
and iberia
make up your mind dude or stop voting strategically

[UltraWar]

Romani +1
Iberia -1

Aedui: 10
Arche Seleukeia: 14
Baktria: 13
Epeiros: 28
Getai: 18
Hayasdan: 10
Iberia: 7
Koinon Hellenon: 17
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 14
Romani: 19
Qarthadast: 22
Sweboz: 12

[GMT]

Romani -1
Qarthadast +1

Aedui: 10
Arche Seleukeia: 14
Baktria: 13
Epeiros: 28
Getai: 18
Hayasdan: 10
Iberia: 7
Koinon Hellenon: 17
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 14
Romani: 18
Qarthadast: 23
Sweboz: 12

[Justiciar]

Iberia -1
Arche Seleukeia +1

Aedui: 10
Arche Seleukeia: 15
Baktria: 13
Epeiros: 28
Getai: 18
Hayasdan: 10
Iberia: 6
Koinon Hellenon: 17
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 14
Romani: 18
Qarthadast: 23
Sweboz: 12

[Zalmoxis]

Getai +1
Iberia -1

Aedui: 10
Arche Seleukeia: 15
Baktria: 13
Epeiros: 28
Getai: 19
Hayasdan: 10
Iberia: 5
Koinon Hellenon: 17
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 14
Romani: 18
Qarthadast: 23
Sweboz: 12

[Dayve]

You're just disappointed because you couldn't make Romani win even when teaming up ... Then you come with your "moral" discussion to make others feel bad for voting up the factions you try to destroy to make Romani win, but the moment others stop voting down Romani you'll still continue to vote down all other factions and vote up Romani. Just remove the Romani and the game will be fair afterwards.

I won't... I have washed my hands of this thread once and for all! I'm just off now to find a website that gives some good designs for paper airplanes... AUFWIEDERSEHEN MEIN FUHRERS!

[tk-421]

Aedui: 10
Arche Seleukeia: 15
Baktria: 13
Epeiros: 28
Getai: 18
Hayasdan: 10
Iberia: 5
Koinon Hellenon: 17
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 14
Romani: 19
Qarthadast: 23
Sweboz: 12

[Warlord 11]

Aedui: 10+1=11
Arche Seleukeia: 15
Baktria: 13
Epeiros: 28-1=27
Getai: 18
Hayasdan: 10
Iberia: 5
Koinon Hellenon: 17
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 14
Romani: 19
Qarthadast: 23
Sweboz: 12

[Birka Viking]

Aedui:11
Arche Seleukeia: 15
Baktria: 13
Epeiros:27
Getai: 18
Hayasdan: 10
Iberia: 5-1=4
Koinon Hellenon: 17
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 14
Romani: 19+1=20
Qarthadast: 23
Sweboz: 12

[Wardo]

Romani +1
Iberia -1

Aedui:11
Arche Seleukeia: 15
Baktria: 13
Epeiros:27
Getai: 18
Hayasdan: 10
Iberia: 3
Koinon Hellenon: 17
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 14
Romani: 21
Qarthadast: 23
Sweboz: 12

[Forgus]

Epeiros +1
Getai -1

Aedui:11
Arche Seleukeia: 15
Baktria: 13
Epeiros:28
Getai: 17
Hayasdan: 10
Iberia: 3
Koinon Hellenon: 17
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 14
Romani: 21
Qarthadast: 23
Sweboz: 12

[GMT]

Ptolemaioi +1
Romani -1

Aedui:11
Arche Seleukeia: 15
Baktria: 13
Epeiros:28
Getai: 17
Hayasdan: 10
Iberia: 3
Koinon Hellenon: 17
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 15
Romani: 20
Qarthadast: 23
Sweboz: 12

[Avicenna]

KH+
Getai-

Aedui:11
Arche Seleukeia: 15
Baktria: 13
Epeiros:28
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 10
Iberia: 3
Koinon Hellenon: 18
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 15
Romani: 20
Qarthadast: 23
Sweboz: 12

[Slider6977]

Aedui:11
Arche Seleukeia: 15
Baktria: 13
Epeiros:28 - 1 = 27
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 10
Iberia: 3
Koinon Hellenon: 18
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 15
Romani: 20
Qarthadast: 23 + 1 = 24
Sweboz: 12

[R4P]

Koinon Hellenon + 1
Ptolemaioi - 1

Aedui:11
Arche Seleukeia: 15
Baktria: 13
Epeiros: 27
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 10
Iberia: 3
Koinon Hellenon: 18 + 1 = 19
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 15 - 1 = 14
Romani: 20
Qarthadast: 24
Sweboz: 12

[Kralizec]

Aedui:11
Arche Seleukeia: 15
Baktria: 13
Epeiros: 27 +1 = 28
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 10
Iberia: 3
Koinon Hellenon: 19
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 14
Romani: 20
Qarthadast: 24 -1 = 23
Sweboz: 12

[Rodion Romanovich]

+Epeiros
-Romani

Aedui:11
Arche Seleukeia: 15
Baktria: 13
Epeiros: 29
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 10
Iberia: 3
Koinon Hellenon: 19
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 14
Romani: 19
Qarthadast: 23
Sweboz: 12

[Rodion Romanovich]

we're supposed to vote for favorite factions, yours are:
Makedonia
getai
averni
eleutheroi
Quardthadast
and iberia
make up your mind dude or stop voting strategically

I think those are my favorite factions, so I vote for all of them. But since there's teaming up for Romani I'll vote for the strongest competitor of Romani henceforth, rather than saving factions I like from being voted out early. It's IMO very sad that so many people try to make romans win all these polls, and that they still believe after playing EB that all other factions were primitive brutes, it's like throwing pearls at swines for them to play such a wonderful thing as EB IMO, and it shows that sadly neither educational systems in our countries, nor EB, have filled their educational purposes. I'm happy as long as Romani don't win, even though that doesn't mean I don't think that Romani is a very well-made faction in EB.

[Taurus]

Baktria +1
Makedonia -1

Aedui:11
Arche Seleukeia: 15
Baktria: 14
Epeiros: 29
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 10
Iberia: 3
Koinon Hellenon: 19
Makedonia: 14
Ptolemaioi: 14
Romani: 19
Qarthadast: 23
Sweboz: 12

[Dayve]

I think those are my favorite factions, so I vote for all of them. But since there's teaming up for Romani I'll vote for the strongest competitor of Romani henceforth, rather than saving factions I like from being voted out early. It's IMO very sad that so many people try to make romans win all these polls, and that they still believe after playing EB that all other factions were primitive brutes, it's like throwing pearls at swines for them to play such a wonderful thing as EB IMO, and it shows that sadly neither educational systems in our countries, nor EB, have filled their educational purposes. I'm happy as long as Romani don't win, even though that doesn't mean I don't think that Romani is a very well-made faction in EB.

You hate the Romani, in game and those of real life, simply because they had an empire and exploited a few people, just like everybody has done over the centuries, except the Romans exported their culture all over western Europe and raised the living standards everywhere they conquered, even if they did use a lot of slaves... All these favourite factions of yours were just as 'brutal' as the Romans were... And almost everybody has had an empire at some point, but you seem to me to have this deep hatred for the Roman empire, even though they probably did more for western Europe than any other empire of the past.

[Rodion Romanovich]

You hate the Romani, in game and those of real life, simply because [...]

Your putting words into my mouth seems to have become a habit. I dislike the flawed, naive and prejudiced view of Rome, and I dislike the late Rome which was quite as horrible as all other empires in history. I dislike how their propaganda still seems to be working to this day, so that regular people think of late Rome as better than other empires, while it was just as bad as others - if not worse because it's mass exploiting and oppression struck more people due to the sheer size of the empire. I also dislike how barbarians are accused of the mess caused by the fall of Rome, when the fall of Rome was caused by the middle and late romans for their behavior. I find it appalling how some people even today think of even late Rome as a role model for how a modern society should look, ignoring the fact that they had at least one dictator per generation, at least one civil war per generation, at least one coup per generation, and things such as death fights for public entertainment (if you look at any other period in history it's much more seldom for any single country to live in fear of having a lunatic as leader, a civil war, or a foreign war - while romans had wars, lunatic leaders and civil wars just as often as any other country in any of the other most turbulent periods in history, only that because of Rome's geographical extent, when these things happened they struck all part of Europe rather than just a single country or a small group). Furthermore humiliation of defeated tribes, fascism, and the fact that late Rome represents the victory of the oppressors and evilness over freedom and justice. The fall of Rome shows that powers seeking to punish oppression and evilness are stronger than any wordly power you can form, but the fact that it took so long, and that the corrupt late Rome kept fighting instead of surrendering is one of the biggest tragedies in history, and the cause of such a horrible aftermath after it's fall. I also hate the Scipio generation and the even worse followers, who turned the cultivated early Rome, with it's potential, into such a horrible empire. The world would have been a better place if the wise men had kept the control over Rome. Finally I find it surprising that someone like you who obviously has no clue about the history of Rome can try to argue against historical argumentation with using Monty Python as if it would be a reliable historical source. You mention no historical sources, not even any examples, but just keep using general statements of a propaganda-like form, saying that "Rome spread blah blah blah and it was good". As you seem to like Monty Python, you probably know what I mean when I say that you remind me of this:

All these favourite factions of yours were just as 'brutal'

Those are my in-game favorites, not real-life favorites. I never denied that others were brutal in real history, I only counter-proved your statements that late Rome were less brutal, while also explaining that early Rome was in many ways less brutal.

[Dayve]

What's so bad about bloodsport? A nation must retain some degree of barbarity, otherwise it becomes a pussy country like most of the countries in western Europe have today. Life sentences for crimes such as murder or rape are VERY uncommon here... Usually murderers serve perhaps 10 years and are then free... I'd bring back public fights to the death if i could... I'd round up all the smackheads and scummy youth that walk the streets terrorizing the old folk, build a huge impressive colleseum and make them fight to the death in it for public entertainment, sounds like a bloody good idea to me. 2 pedofiles fighting for their life and free wine and spare ribs for all! Hoorah!

Also i don't know what you're getting at with monty python... I've never even watched any monty python show so i really don't know what you're on about.

But your hatred of everything Roman is really misfounded... The poor people that the Romans conquered and suppressed were conquering and suppressing other people before the Romans conquered and suppressed them!

The Roman empire was just as cruel as any of the factions in EB, so stop making it out like they are the cruelest people of all time.

Also i wouldn't see the fall of Rome one of the most tragic events in western European history... I'd see Germany allowing you know who to become feuhrer more tragic than that...

[Rodion Romanovich]

What was the history of the zipper again?

[Kralizec]

What was the history of the zipper again?

Superb response

Now Dayve, if you have no intention of playing the game, take this discussion to PM or the monastery. We know you don't like the game, now stop cluttering this thread with off topic tangents.

Aedui:11
Arche Seleukeia: 15
Baktria: 13
Epeiros: 29 +1 = 30 yay!
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 10
Iberia: 3 -1 = 2
Koinon Hellenon: 19
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 14
Romani: 19
Qarthadast: 23
Sweboz: 12