What s wrong with the Pope?

**LadyAnn** · 06-12-2006, 23:48

Time to install a new Pope :) [when you got excom]

Annie

**Sensei Warrior** · 06-13-2006, 00:49

Too true, LadyAnn. Any annoying edicts dictated by the Pope can be solved by the proper application of troops and/or assassins. He can't excomm you twice.

I personally prefer the Troop method, along with pillaging and burning, and finished by evacuation.

**Ciaran** · 06-13-2006, 15:03

One thing is important to keep in mind: There is the Pope as in "the pope" and there is the Papacy faction of which the pope is the leader. Most of the time, but not always, they´re the same, but not when it comes to excommunication. For instance, alliance with the Papacy will not protect you from being excommunicated, but being at war with the Papacy doesnt always result in excommunication. It´s a bit schizophrenic, really.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 06-13-2006, 15:48

In my experience attacking the Papacy is instant excomunication, unless you already attacked someone else.

**Sensei Warrior** · 06-13-2006, 16:21

You can attack the Papacy without getting excommed? Is that because of the Thing where the Pope can only track one infraction at a time.

**mfberg** · 06-13-2006, 16:48

Take the province immediately, do not wait for a year to let the seige mature or bring up reinfocements. You have to invade with enough forces to force the Polish out or make a successful attack of the castle with those forces, and within a year be able to reinforce enough to frighten the Poles into not attacking again in the future. Even attacking into a Polish group sieging one of your castles is considered an attack.

mfberg

**Ciaran** · 06-14-2006, 10:14

Originally Posted by Wigferth Ironwall

In my experience attacking the Papacy is instant excomunication, unless you already attacked someone else.

I didn´t say "attack", I said "be at war". If the Papacy attacks you then you won´t be excommunicated. If you counterattack or reconquer lost territory, however, you might face excommunication.

**ajaxfetish** · 06-15-2006, 22:28

Yes, if you're purely on the defensive you can be at war with the Papacy but in good Christian standing. One other thing to keep in mind regarding excommunication, just a sidenote really, check out your king's age and that of the pope before launching an attack that will probably get you excommed. If either are in their twilight years it might be worth it to bite the bullet and then let them die off afterwards to restore your communion with the faithful. One of numerous ways to deal with the pope's annoying tendencies.

Ajax