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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside
    On the positive side, the pope can only give out one warning at the time, so you'll get a carte blanche against any other catholic faction.
    ? I made the opposite experience: A warning from the pope seems to count for all factions possibly at war with you. To clarify this: I regularly get excommed as the HRE when dealing with my numerous warlike & well-armed neighbours (Medieval Mod ) one after the other. say I take on the Polish and cripple them sufficiently within the 2-year-term, so no further offensive action against them is taken (bo castles besieged etc). the next turn, the hungarians invade and I consecutively force them out....BANG I get excommed without having being warned. not that it's really that problematic in early (as ling as no other Catholics are able to launch a crusade) but it's annoying nevertheless. or did I do/realize something wrongly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deus ret.
    ? I made the opposite experience: A warning from the pope seems to count for all factions possibly at war with you. To clarify this: I regularly get excommed as the HRE when dealing with my numerous warlike & well-armed neighbours (Medieval Mod ) one after the other. say I take on the Polish and cripple them sufficiently within the 2-year-term, so no further offensive action against them is taken (bo castles besieged etc). the next turn, the hungarians invade and I consecutively force them out....BANG I get excommed without having being warned. not that it's really that problematic in early (as ling as no other Catholics are able to launch a crusade) but it's annoying nevertheless. or did I do/realize something wrongly?
    Sounds odd . Either the mod changed something (unlikely) or then you missed something. Any offensive naval battles?

    Only thing that'll get you excommed for pure defending is refusing for letting crusades pass. That'll give instant excommunication.
    It might be that you do the offensive action against the Hungerians before the acual warning has started for the Poles. But I don't think it should matter, it's simply that I don't remember if I tried that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside
    Sounds odd . Either the mod changed something (unlikely) or then you missed something. Any offensive naval battles?

    Only thing that'll get you excommed for pure defending is refusing for letting crusades pass. That'll give instant excommunication.
    It might be that you do the offensive action against the Hungerians before the acual warning has started for the Poles. But I don't think it should matter, it's simply that I don't remember if I tried that.
    You're right, I missed something....I had to replay much of the campaign due to a savegame crash (never rely too much on quicksave alone ) and indeed in the same turn the battle for Poland took place I had a minor naval skirmish with the Hungarians, who had already tried to attack me; this resulted in the warning being valid for them, not the poor crippled Polish I got excommed soon anyway because when playing as the HRE there virtually is no possibility to stay peaceful and fight purely defensive wars on all fronts - one HAS to take some action and cripple some of those pesky invaders.
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