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    A SECOND World War documentary by a leading American film-maker is at the centre of a looming battle over standards of decency on American television.

    The War, by Ken Burns, which includes veterans using profanities to describe their experiences on the front line, has become a test case in the Government’s crackdown on indecency on the air. The 14-hour series, created by the documentarian known for his epic television histories Jazz, Baseball and The Civil War, is scheduled to be broadcast on public television stations in September next year.
    He said he was flabbergasted that FCC policy was being applied to documentaries, particularly after President Bush was caught on camera using a vulgarity in a conversation with Tony Blair at the recent G8 summit in St Petersburg, Russia.
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    The Pilgrim Fathers must be proud of their legacy. I am amazed how puritanical America can be. Show a bit of tit or swear on telly and all hell breaks loose. It surely is a country of contradictions.

    So should the 'offensive' words be, not only, bleeped out but the mouth pixellated as well, or should the documentary be allowed to be broadcast unedited?

    I say show it unabridged, after all these guys fought to secure freedom of speech and war is hell!
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    He said he was flabbergasted that FCC policy was being applied to documentaries, particularly after President Bush was caught on camera using a vulgarity in a conversation with Tony Blair at the recent G8 summit in St Petersburg, Russia.
    Eh? Didn't realise Americans used flabbergasted, thought that was just brits.
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    We all know that grandads don't swear, and never have. Even during the D-Day landings.

    I would hate to see TV viewers in America learning that the people who fight and have fought for their country are in fact real people, not all-American robots made up to look like Tom Hanks.
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    I'm a four times (soon to be 5) grandad and I got a warning for swearing here......
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slyspy
    We all know that grandads don't swear, and never have. Even during the D-Day landings.

    I would hate to see TV viewers in America learning that the people who fight and have fought for their country are in fact real people, not all-American robots made up to look like Tom Hanks.
    Funny you should mention Tom Hanks. ABC wanted to show an uncut "Saving Private Ryan" on the air for Veteran's Day. Due to the Bono rule (no F-bombs), many affiliates refused to show it for fear of FCC fines. Showing a soldier looking around on a beach for his arm = OK, showing Vin Diesel dropping curse words = bad.

    Nothing to see here, move along. The protectors of our freedom are watching out for us.
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    When my grandad was in the RAF in WW2 he would always tell me stories about his flights over Myanmar, getting shot down by a Zero, Landing Bruised and Bloody behind Enemy Lines, and getting rescued by an ANZAC Platoon. Now he started telling me these stories when I was about 4 years old, and didn't spare any of the details, including swearing like he was still there. For an old Brit, my Grandad sure had a dirty mouth

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    Us Brits don't swear ... we just express ourselves colourfully
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    The Pilgrim Fathers must be proud of their legacy. I am amazed how puritanical America can be. Show a bit of tit or swear on telly and all hell breaks loose. It surely is a country of contradictions.

    So should the 'offensive' words be, not only, bleeped out but the mouth pixellated as well, or should the documentary be allowed to be broadcast unedited?

    I say show it unabridged, after all these guys fought to secure freedom of speech and war is hell!
    You'd be better off not bringing in the founding fathers in your argument...

    They saw no contradiction between freedom of speech, and indecency and blasphemy laws...

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    Who mentioned the founding fathers?
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

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    Weak. Next we will be required by law to wear only black and white.


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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    Who mentioned the founding fathers?
    My bad, you said "Pilgrim fathers".

    Completely different...

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