The Post-Millenium U.S. Civil War

[Divinus Arma]

Well, I hate to come out and publicly disagree with you Eclectic, but I think you're off base. Way off base.

For starters, I no longer see two parties at work within the US. There is only one... the party of "We've been elected and we want to stay that way". There is no statesmanship, no principal, no core belief any more. You can dismiss it as 'the lesser of two evils", but frankly, I lost the ability to distinguish between Democrats and Republicans in government. Why do I say that?

Republicans are supposed to be the party of fiscal responsibility. They are supposed to be the party of limited government. Do you see anything in Medicaid PartD that even remotely smacks of limited government or fiscal responsiblity? Does it even help the old people it claims to?? No. The Bush administration has made the Republicans into the very caricature that Republicans have been tarred with in the past... a clearing house for big business to get funding out of the government (in this case, the pharmaceutical companies). And to keep your mind off these things, they dance out non-issues like a constitutional ammendment to ban gay marriage. Even if they were serious about it, it is a flyspeck of importance compared to our fiscal policy woes these days. And they're not serious about it!!! They're not even trying to get the damned thing passed. They want to keep it up on Capitol Hill so they can trot it out every 6 months to a year and say "we're working hard for your interests".

Democrats are no better. I'm not advocating jumping ship and going their way, as they have betrayed all of their populist-progressive ideology as well. At the end of the day, the only difference that I see between the Democrats and the Republicans is which particular lobbies are going to get more traction. I may even quit voting, just monitoring elections to rebalance my portfolio...

Hmmm, Democrats took the House? Better up my stake in Google and Microsoft. Hmm, Republicans increased their lead in the Senate? Need more energy and pharmaceutical stocks. One thing is for sure. A winning bet is to short sell the American taxpayer, every damned time.

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My God, I've been possessed by KhafirChobee.

You're breakin my heart Don. I don't disagree with anything you have said here. The Republicans have been screwin up and overspending with pork and massive federal programs: department of homeland security should have been a inteligence/law enforcement resource coordination cabinet not a federal employee staff increase; no child left behind is a monster intrusion of the federal government into state and local responsibility; and you are word-for-word correct about Deadicare Part D.

BUT, for all the domestic failings of the GOP, the Dems will do far more damage. There is no restraint in the Democratic party. You will see massive boosts in entitelments all across the board: minimum wage increase, government health care, and tax increases galore. This is a FACT because they advertise this fact. The Republican electorate are at least desirous of fiscal restraint.

That domestic agenda is not even what I am worried about. The Democrats are desirous of an oligarchy in the United States. They want to consolidate power into the hands of the liberal elite and then destroy the constitution through liberal interpretation. What do you think a liberal in America is anyway? It's not the idealist philosophy of personal freedom in Europe; liberalism in America is nothing more than the liberal interpretation of the law, allowing maximum flexibility to fit the whims of the elites! Without a conservative reading, there is no law. The constitution must be interpretted as nearly to literal or originalist as is concievable to preserve the integrity of the document. To do anything else renders is without absolute meaning.

Once these bastards seize control, they can make the law anything they want to: (a) through flexible meaning or where that is impossible (b) through eradication of rights via amendments. The right to bear arms will be first. Then the freedom to assemble. What next? And when terrorsists attack us again, they will blame the right wing and use that to institute further domestic control.

Why do this? LegioulpavictirxVIXXXXIIVVVIVIVWhatever (I'll never get the name right) said it in the other thread: the citizens have a duty to retain their freedoms through diligence lest those freedoms be taken away. These bastards want control just like every other group of tyrants- their own power and glorification.

Here's the worst part. The Democrats and leftist liberals in this country have villified God. They blame the worship of God on all these wars and equate Judeo-Christian beliefs to Islamic Terrorism! The Democrats are the party of atheists. Now that God is out of the equation there is no ultimate good or evil, instead good and evil is determined by man. And in a nation ruled by a godless oligarchy, conquest and slavery is not far behind. We will become everything we have fought against.

And that is why civil war will occur in America once again. Democracy vs the Oligarchy. Its a scene that has been played out in history since the Peloponnesian War.


Just because our own party is making some errors does not mean we abandon it. That means we must have the balls to fix it. To make every effort to have our voices heard. To rise up and challenge the status quo by being proactively involved. Join the campaigns of those local and state officials you agree with- they are your future national leaders. Write and call your congressmen and senators. Go to rallies, call up the RNC, take the time to fill out those stupid RNC and senate majority leader surveys. Make your voice heard.

It takes more than voting. If all we do is speak through our vote alone, then we are destined to continue the pendulum and in case you haven't noticed, this one swings further out with each stroke.