Voting Left: Why Should I?

[Divinus Arma]

Inspired by the recent convo with the Don, I want to give you American Leftist Liberals one shot at me. Make your case. But if your argument at all makes a claim of "we're not Republican" in any way, then you have just wasted 2 minutes of your life typing to a wall.

Come on people. Do not define your party by what you are not. Show me what you are.

Here's your chance. The Don and I will be paying attention. And I promise not to assault your post with my conservative superpowers.

[Big_John]

why don't you tell us why you think we should allow you onto our side?

(note: your offer better include some money)

[Lemur]

Are we to asusme that by "American leftist liberals" you mean anybody who doesn't agree with you on 90% of the Bush administration's policies? Or do you actually mean American leftist liberals?

If the latter is the case, I'm not sure who would qualify to respond. Most of the real leftists on the Org are from Europe or South America ...

[The_Doctor]

America has a left?

[Divinus Arma]

*sigh*

Why should I vote Democrat. Does that work for you people?

[Lemur]

Forget the Democrats, just vote against your incumbents. That's the Lemur's rule of thumb. Unless there's some pressing reason why you shouldn't, always vote for the new guy (or gal). Cycle those greasy scumbags through the halls of power as quickly as possible.

I'll leave it to any Democrats on the Org to make a special case for their party.

[Tribesman]

America has a left?
Yep , it's the east .
Unless your map is upside down .

[Marshal Murat]

Stay on topic
FYI-Northern East Coast and California typically vote Left.

[Geezer57]

Yes, America's left is bi-coastal, mostly concentrated in the major urban areas.

[Navaros]

The question is an oxymoron.

You shouldn't. End of story.

[Ice]

The question is an oxymoron.

You shouldn't. End of story.

Reasons why not?

[Papewaio]

It is the fence sitters that get what they want.

If you are in a safe seat for any party they will not throw sweeteners at you, it is the swing seats that will get the most sweeteners. A similar trend is seen through the types of lifestyle, job, pay bracket... however if you are a die hard party member and a large part of your profession are as well then the parties won't pander to you, and it doesn't matter if you are for them or against them... their war chest of funds is better spent on the ones in the middle that could swing either way.

[Fragony]

In the Netherlands there is really one reason to vote left, you have filthy rich parents and feel bad about it. Socialism is the rich kid's concience.

[Ironside]

*sigh*

Why should I vote Democrat. Does that work for you people?

You shouldn't. But on the other hand you shouldn't vote Republican either, but move to something like Canada.
Currently it seems that a good voting pattern in the US to vote for the most decent presidental candidate and let the other party get the senate. The problem is that you'll need a decent candidate...

Notice that what's stated below is very general differences and only my opinion. Others can feel different.

The fundamental difference between the left or right is that the right tries to progress the society through the individuals, while the left tries to progress the society as a community as a hole.

Then we got different tendecies. The right tends to be more traditionalists ("what worked yesterday will work today"), while the left tends to be more progressive ("we can make things better today than yesterday, and what worked yesterday won't always work today")

The right want's a smaller goverment as "they steal our hard earned money" and cannot handle the money properly, while the left doesn't trust the cooperations to really want the best for the citizens (their costumers).
To make the system sound, the right believes that the competition between companies will keep it optimized, while the left believes that the transparity of the system will keep it optimized. Both works moderately well, but has it's flaws.

Remind you that both systems strive for a balanced budget, high employment, etc, etc, a good economy plain and simple.

Alot of things in US politics doesn't fit with the classical left and right scale, due to thats scale limitations.
For example, were does a big goverment (disliked by the right) allying with big coorperations (disliked by the left) fit?

[Oaty]

Voting Left: Why Should I?

My little buddy prefers I vote for the right

[Shaun]

Well currently there is no one in the US that I would particularly vote for.
But if you look at a map of who votes who, you will notice that all the built up urban areas typically vote left, and the rural backward country areas typically vote right. I wonder why?

[scooter_the_shooter]

Well currently there is no one in the US that I would particularly vote for.
But if you look at a map of who votes who, you will notice that all the built up urban areas typically vote left, and the rural backward country areas typically vote right. I wonder why?

Rural areas are not a bunch of ignorant "backward" hicks

[Redleg]

Well currently there is no one in the US that I would particularly vote for.
But if you look at a map of who votes who, you will notice that all the built up urban areas typically vote left, and the rural backward country areas typically vote right. I wonder why?

LOL a generalization that has been proven false over and over again.

[drone]

2004 presidential election map, by county, from Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2...e_counties.png

If anything, I think it shows that Republicans tend to be afraid of water.

[Csargo]

Voting Left: Why Should I?

Why not?

[Redleg]

2004 presidential election map, by county, from Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2...e_counties.png

If anything, I think it shows that Republicans tend to be afraid of water.

That doesn't explain New Mexico.....

[Slyspy]

There is no point, because you will not change your mind. You probably wouldn't even if God himself argued the case for. Besides which we would first have to define the term "American Leftist Liberals".

[Divinus Arma]

Well currently there is no one in the US that I would particularly vote for.
But if you look at a map of who votes who, you will notice that all the built up urban areas typically vote left, and the rural backward country areas typically vote right. I wonder why?

Because the urban areas are filled with poverty-stricken urbanites. Ever heard of the "ghetto" or the "bario"? You won't find that in Montana!

[drone]

That doesn't explain New Mexico.....

Doesn't the Rio Grande cut through that swath of blue?

[Shaun]

Because the urban areas are filled with poverty-stricken urbanites. Ever heard of the "ghetto" or the "bario"? You won't find that in Montana!

And the poverty stricken areas tend to be better off under the democrats, well so do all the 37 million Americans that are living under the poverty line actually.

LOL a generalization that has been proven false over and over again.

Actually, drones map kinda proves it pretty damn true.

Rural areas are not a bunch of ignorant "backward" hicks

Hence my use of the word typically!

[drone]

And the poverty stricken areas are led to believe that they are better off under the democrats, well so do all the 37 million Americans that are living under the poverty line actually.

Fixed.

Not saying that the GOP would treat them any better, but the poor base has not been served very well by their Democratic Party overlords, even when they were in control.

[whyidie]

Inspired by the recent convo with the Don, I want to give you American Leftist Liberals one shot at me. Make your case. But if your argument at all makes a claim of "we're not Republican" in any way, then you have just wasted 2 minutes of your life typing to a wall.

Come on people. Do not define your party by what you are not. Show me what you are.

Here's your chance. The Don and I will be paying attention. And I promise not to assault your post with my conservative superpowers.

Tell us about yourself. Why were you a lefty ? What was it about the party that has brought so much good to this country that appealed to you at the time. What changed ? Joined the military ? Got rich ? Got poor ? Got educated ? Got indoctrined ? Where did you go right ?

[John86]

I dont believe there is an answer to your question Eclectic, there is not reason to vote democrat.

but move to something like Canada.

[Pannonian]

Do you want to pay for another war?

[Strike For The South]

Do you want to pay for another war?

Yes becuase All republicans do is start wars and democrats are little angles