Full Campaign Map

[Templar Knight]

Found this in a link over at the Gamespot forums. Shows the full map and the parts of the new world that will be in.

[TB666]

Looks like 5 provinces in the new world, maybe 6 if Cuba is seperated.
Looks good.

[pyradyn]

Looking at my map they really moved North America North, considering the Yucatan shares the same latitude as central africa, and England shares the same latitide as Qubec Canada. So it seems they decided to shove North America North

[UltraWar]

Finally! I can conquer the New World!

[B-Wing]

Interesting. I wonder if that's truly the full map. I would think it would go further west to include the heart of the Aztec empire. Cortes' conquest took place within the game's time period, after all.

I also remembered seeing a small piece of land in the northwest corner of the campaign map in earlier screenshot that most people assumed was Iceland. I guess it was actually North America.

Does the full campaign map extend further south, as well? It looks to me like there's more of Africa in this one.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

That map doesn't look right.

Is that supposed to be Cuba and the USA (especially Florida) in the top left corner? As pyradyn noted, that seems too far North.

And Yucatan seems too large relative the rest of North America.

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It seems radically distorted to me.

[iraklaras]

Finally! I can conquer the New World!

[sunsmountain]

Look, this map was NOT created for (historical) accuracy, but was made to play a game.

So quit your whining: balkan's borders were always chaos, america was a new and exciting continent, and you don't want too many provinces since remember, you'll have to conquer them all (each time).
I do hope they bring era's back... Assuming this is the Early era, the top province in Russia would be Novgorod, otherwise Russia, according to MTW 1 anyway.

[screwtype]

The Russkies and Poles look a bit shortchanged. I'm sure they had a lot more provinces to play with in MTW 1.

[poo_for_brains]

Nah, don't think so - there were barely any Eastern Europe provinces in MTW1

As for the Americas, it's not the latitudes that irritate me - I was hoping that it would take ages to get to America, so that everybody had to rush there with one army and try and take the whole of America, as reinforcements would take too long to arrive. As it is, it's as close as other parts of Europe.

[JFC]

I genuinely believe that the map issue isn't really a major snag. CA had to get the map into an area which would live in the bottom left of the screen and show, at a glance, the whole of the conquerable area. Allowing instant appreciation of the political situation. For Florida and South America to be shown in the light that seems to be cast here in a more realistic geographical position, would have interrupted with the map of Europe.

I can look at this image and see, without pressing anything, who owns what and where. The larger Campaign map will, I'm sure, add the realistic issues such as distance and difficulty of travel.

[Servius]

The whole America thing is just a gimic anyway. American civilizations were a pushover, they can't attack back...it's just another feather for someone to put in his cap, a way to have a few interesting battles late game (interesting due to the unusual opposing units and terrain), and a way to generate lots of trade goods revenue most likely.

As far as the map of Europe...
Scotland is now 2 provinces instead of 1
Greece is at least 3 provinces instead of 1
France has 1 new province in the SE
There's 1 new province on the west coast of the Black Sea
Egypt is now 2 provinces instead of 1
I think they added Iraq
And yes, the Americas are totally mis-positioned

[Orda Khan]

I never thought much of the New World attachment to a Mediaeval game and nothing has changed, I still don't like it. If it was an expansion, fair enough I suppose but I fail to see the point of adding this when making different starting eras would have been a far better option

......Orda

[screwtype]

The whole America thing is just a gimic anyway. American civilizations were a pushover, they can't attack back...it's just another feather for someone to put in his cap, a way to have a few interesting battles late game (interesting due to the unusual opposing units and terrain), and a way to generate lots of trade goods revenue most likely.

Yes, it is a bit gimmicky, but I think it's a bit of a myth that the Americas were a "pushover". The standard story is that a few hundred Spanish conquistadors conquered a whole civilization, but in fact it took the Spanish about 20 years, including numerous defeats, to conquer the Americas. And they were helped mightily not only by exploiting existing hostilities between various tribes, but by the diseases they inadvertently introduced. Due mainly to disease, the indigenous population shrank by about 75%, from 15 million to 4 million, in the 30 years following the Spanish arrival on the mainland, and in the next 20 years it halved again.