Bioshock non-gameplay discussion

[Spino]

Excellent video! I especially love how all the creatures in the game world operate according to dynamic AI and do not rely on scripting! Looks positively gorgeous in action too, I shudder to think what the system requirements will be.

I wouldn't worry too much about the developer's emphasis on the word 'fps' or 'shooter', I think they're simply trying very hard not to alienate the fps crowd by presenting Bioshock as being purely a sci-fi crpg game. Given Irrational's track record I seriously doubt Bioshock is going to be lacking in the depth department.

Speaking of System Shock, apparently there is some really bad blood between Irrational and EA over the fate of that series...

http://digitalbattle.com/2006/08/01/...-pissed-at-ea/

BioShock Dev Pissed At EA
August 1st, 2006 by Armin Siljkovic in Action, Adventure, Xbox360, PC, Rumor, Multiplayer
Irrational Games, developer of BioShock had a few things going on with EA in the past. Company boss Ken Levine says the reason there were no plans for System Shock 3 was because, as he puts it, “EA just didn’t give a **** about that game”.

Apparently Levine had it all worked out for System Shock 3, a story design, concept etc. He says:

“I think if EA were to do it, it would’ve been just a regular first-person shooter with a boss monster at the end.”

According to Levine, EA didn’t see System Shock as a big brand, and didn’t give it much attention. Their new publisher, 2K Games did see the potential in the series,

“We have a publisher who cares about this game, and they believe in this kind of game. 2K Games is the company that helped reinvigorate Elder Scrolls and Civilization. They believe in core games.”

Wow, EA letting a stellar property rot on the vine? What a shock!

[Fragony]

Well maybe it's all for the best then that there is no System Shock 3. But I thought nobody owned the rights to System Shock 2 and it was legal to download? God why out of all companies EA, should have dealt with Ubisoft or other much more sympathatic publishers.

[Ironside]

That video is really starting to get my hopes up.

Creepy environment? Check
Disturbing environment? Check
Creepy sounds? Check (sadly he did ramble a bit too much to hear what that splicer was mumbling about in the last scene).
Ammo being scarce? Check
Daul AP ammo ? Check
Mad AI... uh singer? Check (we'll see if he can rival SHODAN, although certainly not in the same way)

The splicers seemed nasty enough to make your fear for an encounter with them, wich is good (in this case ). Only gotten that feeling in AvP2 as a marine and SS2, although in both games that feeeling started to drop about halfway through.

We do need our trusty wrench though.

[econ21]

That video is really starting to get my hopes up.

Yes, it showed that the E3 interviews and the screenshots certainly weren't lying.

I think the game does look rather less absolutely terrifying than System Shock 2 - the splicers don't have the bowel loosening quality of the hybrids or cyber-midwives. And maybe the premise/story is less good, who knows? But I certainly recognised enough of the core elements of SS2 in it to make this my most anticipated game at the moment (sorry, M2TW).

[Ironside]

We do need our trusty wrench though.

And we got our trusty wrench

http://www.gamespot.com/events/x06/s...pslot;action;1

Seems that they weren't kidding when they said that the big daddies are strong.

[Sir Moody]

"Look Mr Bubbles Adam!"

that line alone had me hooked great video really looks like theyve recreated the SS2 atmosphere

[econ21]

"Look Mr Bubbles Adam!"

There's no way I am going to harm a little sister - I assumed from the freaky screenshots that they would be some kind of perverted cybermidwife type creature. But they sound so human, interfering with them would seem like child abuse. Especially when she crawls back into the damp sewer thing and says how cold it is. I wonder what the implications of a "pacifist" approach will be - how seriously will you be disadvantaged without their Adam?

[Spino]

There's no way I am going to harm a little sister - I assumed from the freaky screenshots that they would be some kind of perverted cybermidwife type creature. But they sound so human, interfering with them would seem like child abuse. Especially when she crawls back into the damp sewer thing and says how cold it is. I wonder what the implications of a "pacifist" approach will be - how seriously will you be disadvantaged without their Adam?

Speak for yourself. Little sisters hold the Adam and the Adams is the precious. Me waaannnts the preciousssssss...

Seriously now, just because it looks like a little girl, acts like a little girl and sounds like a little girl doesn't mean it's a little girl. I dunno, call me strange but the idea of fragging cute female mutants dressed in summer frocks and pigtails who wield huge syringes for the sole purpose of draining and consuming my precious bodily fluids so as to get at some mutagenic compound called 'Adam' doesn't sway my moral compass.

Anyway, based on the recently released trailer I love the immediate visual effect Adam has those who take it (Little Sisters excepted).

[TB666]

I will make another post so that people can see that it's updated
Anyway, finished the demo.
Pretty short but it gives you a tease of what's to come and I must say, fricking awesome.
First controls:

It's pretty simple controls, the standard Xbox controls for a fps.
Right triggers shots the weapons and left triggers uses your powers.
It's feels just like it should.

Graphics: This game is just stunning to look at.
The levels, the water, the fire etc looks great.
Also it very smooth, didn't notice any stuttering while playing.
The enemies looks cool as well. The big daddy is one of the coolest things I have seen in a game.
The light is very fitting considering your location and adds to the mood.

Sound:

The sound is top-notch not to mention creepy as hell.
It reminds me alot of SS2.
The sweet lullaby sung by the little sister is just pretty while at the same time creepy.

Gameplay:

You can only enjoy some of it but it already makes me hunger for more.
It works just like they said it would. If a enemy is standing in a pool of water then just sap it with a lightning bolt and watch him fry.
I can see great things in this.
You can pick up items lying around. Things like food, drinks(yes you can get drunk) and medpacks and other things useful.
You can also find money(which you didn't get a chance to use in the demo) and 2 soundtapes that features recordings of people living in the city that gives you a hint to what has happened.
One particular recording gave me goosebumps.
You never get the chance to fight a big daddy but you do see him in action and it put a nice smile on my face when I saw it because it was so cool.
As stated before, the game is creepy just like they promised it would be.

I was really sad when the demo ended. I really didn't want it to end.
But the game will come out the 24th and that day will be great.

[Fragony]

Owww god, why did the bloody thing had to die now

I should be playing demo in an hour. But xbox360 did what xbxox360 does

[Husar]

Well, why is there no PC demo?

[Decker]

Never heard of Bioshock until now and the previous one. How well does the second one run on say a ATI Radeon 9200? Every game made after FEAR, including some of the new RTS' don't even run as demos on it .

[Fragony]

Second is almost 10 years old should work fine, may want to make a hard-drive partition because it doesn't really work well with XP. Can't buy the second anymore, if you want to download it PM me, can't link it because of rules, not legal or illegal, grey area thingie.

[Decker]

It's almost 10 years old should work fine, may want to make a hard-drive partition because it doesn't really work well with XP. Can't buy the second anymore, if you want to download it PM me, can't link it because of rules, not legal or illegal, grey area thingie.

Nah it's cool. Fileplanet won't even let me down load the demo it so I figure I'd just have to wait for Bio2 and a new rig or maybe a 360 but games are always better on the comp.

[TB666]

Well, why is there no PC demo?

Because they like Xbox more ??

[Husar]

You can download the official artbook now, some of the paintings look quite scary.

[frogbeastegg]

Played the demo. It's horrible - in a good way. I've put my pre-order in

[drone]

Well, why is there no PC demo?

http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/home.html

WHAT ABOUT A BIOSHOCK PC DEMO?
August 13, 2007

After the appearance of the BioShock Demo on Xbox 360™ last night, I’m sure many of you PC fans wondered, “What about us?”

Here’s the deal.

A BioShock PC Demo IS coming. We tried as hard as humanly possible to get it out to you guys simultaneously with the 360 demo, but we needed to make sure that it was perfect -- that all drivers were ready, and that the game looked great on a huge variety of computers.

Currently, the PC demo in its final stages of testing and approval. We are pushing to get it out to you as soon as possible. It will be out during the month of August, and everyone is working at full capacity to deliver it to you before the game hits store shelves on August 21st. I will also let you know as soon as I have an exact date for the demo's release, so please stay tuned.

I cannot express enough how sorry I am for the wait. Thank you for understanding and your patience. Just remember -- only eight days left till you get your hands on the full game.

I’ll let you know where to get the demo as soon as it becomes available.

[Fragony]

Well first reviews are on, word is that it's good, very good. 9,5 pc gamer UK and a 10/10 in some other magazine.

[Lemur]

Penny Arcade's take on the demo. Warning: contains three naughty words. But very funny, as usual.

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P.S.: Seems the game has hit stores early. Some people are reporting finding it at Toys R Us, no word on whether places like GameStop have dropped the hammer.

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Hmm, or maybe not ...