Mafia IV: Night of the Living Mafia [Concluded]

[Lord Winter]

Oh, another observation of mine:
Destroyer of Hope posted?
(no offence meant) He usually never participates in games he joins, such as mafia. I remember all he ever did was post once to join then never again in the thread. In the Will of the Senate game he's also taken up a very good avatar, ignored all PMs I sent him to play or give up the character and in the usual manner just not gone. This makes him highly suspicious IMO.

I've been trying to fix this. I was active in SR's game and I'm trying to be active in this one. For mafia two I was out of town when I got lynched and had no chance to defend myself. I was lynched early in mafia III, before I took time to look at the thread. I admit that I made a mistake in not giving up my character in the will of the senate.

I still vote for Kage I would rather lynch someone who wants to die then someone who might be useful latter in the game.
Vote: Kage

[Cowhead418]

Nooooo why do people always say this. It's always in the towns best interest to chance a lynch. If we don't lynch they are going to kill innocents anyway. We have 32 peeps I believe. We can lose two each round, or we can lose 3 each round with a small chance at a mafioso.

Scenario 1: First three rounds we abstain. 6 innocents die.
Scanario 2: We lynch two rounds in a row. We have a 1/30 and a 1/27 chance of killing a mafioso. If we don't 6 innocents die.

Now which is better for the town? LYNCHING

I see what you mean, my point was more of what evidence is available in the first few rounds. More rounds means more evidence and a more likely chance of a mafia making a mistake and possibly accidently giving away clues. Though, looking at the scenarios, you are right that lynching is better for the town. There is no other way to kill a mafioso, and hoping the Wrath of GHC will kill off an idle mafia isn't reliable or likely.

[Drisos]

Truly I'm not really suspicious of kagemuscha.. but like I said before I know I am innocent and I can never be sure about him being innocent. I just hope I'll stay alive and get the chance to actually vote for a mafioso for a change..

Vote: Kagemuscha

[Kagemusha]

It seems that im about to be executed. When i signed in i knew that i wouldnt possibly have enough time to play the game to the fullest so i thought to give a little boost for the start with my little stunt. I think that in the end game one should study carefully the reactions of the players in the first round, becouse i think some of the participants are likely Mafia. From my personal experience i can tell that Mafiosos are highly intrested on the game becouse of their self intrest and so are easily sucked into grazy conversations like i started. But enough of the ramble and good luck to all in the game!

[doc_bean]

Vote: Kage

Honouring his request.

[Ignoramus]

Vote: Kagemusha

[Avicenna]

You know, you could have just asked GHC to kill you WoG style.

[Lemur]

Sasaki's right. As much as I don't want to lynch an innocent, it's our only real shot at getting the mafia. I'm going to be a good lemur now and vote. Sorry for my abstentions -- call it a moment of weakness.

Vote:Kage

[Dutch_guy]

Well, I'm abstaining for now. Enough people seem to be willing to honor Kage's request (why he doesn't just comit suicide is beyond me) and wasting a vote on Drisos while the score is 11 - 3 in his favour seems a bit useless.

[Sigurd]

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[discovery1]

Vote: Kage and ice

[Avicenna]

Reminder: it is against the rules to reveal yourself if you are a mafia.

[Dutch_guy]

Reminder: it is against the rules to reveal yourself if you are a mafia.

And how did you come to post this ?

Have we somehow missed some obvious hint ?

[UltraWar]

Vote:Drisos

[AggonyDuck]

Reminder: it is against the rules to reveal yourself if you are a mafia.

It doesn't say that in the rules posted at the start.

[Masy]

For reasons as before Vote Kage

[Avicenna]

GHC says that to the mafia and detective in their PMs. I have personal knowledge of this.

[Silver Rusher]

It doesn't say that in the rules posted at the start.

I'm not sure where it says it, but it is definitely true.

[Divine Wind]

Vote: Drisos

[Drisos]

GHC says that to the mafia and detective in their PMs. I have personal knowledge of this.

Does he say things meant towards mafia people against the detective? I don't recall you being mafioso.

Unvote: Kagemuscha

I don't like him being voted off because he wants too, instead of people thinking he's guilty. He should commit suicide, so the people can lynch someone else, with the chance of lynching a mafioso.

Vote: Drisos

Is that allowed?

[Csargo]

Unvote:Abstain
Vote: Drisos

[Avicenna]

I was detective in Mafia II.

Also, in the end, the writeups in Mafia III revealed that the mafiosi are too not allowed to reveal their identity.

[Leet Eriksson]

VOTE: Kage

I have a feeling Kages suicidal intent is part of a greater mafia scheme to kill us all!

[GeneralHankerchief]

Chief of Police Beirut finished tallying the votes for a second time. This time there was a clear "winner." Good. Then he could get some sleep. It had been a long day. Sighing, he addressed the Frontroom crowd.

"Gentlemen," he began. You have chosen Kagemusha as the mafioso. Let's hope for all of our sakes that you are right.

Oddly enough, everybody was happy. The majority of the crowd was glad that they were still alive, and Kage, seemingly suicidal, smiled at this result. He bounded up to where Beirut was standing and addressed the crowd, grinning ear-to-ear.

"Thanks a lot, you guys. Glad to die. Enjoy the rest of the game-er, your lives. So, where's this poison?"

Beirut, with a look of total confusion on his face, took out a bottle of foul-smelling liquid. "Open your mouth, Kage."

Kage just laughed and took the bottle. "That's ok, I'll do it myself. Bottoms up!" And then, as if this was a drinking competition, chugged the whole bottle of poison down. Actually, he didn't drink the whole thing. Kage fell to the ground with a "thud" about halfway through.

Beirut blinked. There was total silence.

"Uh, okay... let's hope you, uh, chose correctly... yeah. Go away now."

The scariest day and weirdest night of everyone's lives had just ended. They turned and went back to their homes, hoping that tomorrow would be a return to normalcy.

Here is the vote tally for Session 1a:
Kagemusha: 13 (Kommodus, Sir Moody, Myrddraal, Evil Maniac From Mars, Cowhead418, Destroyer of Hope, doc_bean, Ignoramus, Kagemusha, Lemur, discovery1, Masy, Leet Eriksson)
Drisos: 8 (Sasaki Kojiro, Crazed Rabbit, Big King Sanctaphrax, Byzantine Mercenary, Drisos, UltraWar, Divine Wind, Csar)

Abstained: 5 (Dutch_guy, Reenk Roink, Zalmoxis, Sigurd Fafnesbane, AggonyDuck)
Didn't vote: 4 (The Spartan, Orb, King Henry V, Ice)

~~~~~~~

Still alive:
Sasaki Kojiro
UltraWar
Sigurd Fafnesbane
discovery1
doc_bean
Dutch_guy
The Spartan
Orb
Sir Moody
Csar
King Henry V
Ignoramus
Reenk Roink
Myrddraal
Crazed Rabbit
Ice
Zalmoxis
Destroyer of Hope
Drisos
Masy
Big King Sanctaphrax
Divine Wind
Evil Maniac From Mars
Cowhead418
Kommodus
AggonyDuck
Lemur
Leet Eriksson
Byzantine Mercenary

Killed:
Silver Rusher
Tiberius

Executed:
Kagemusha

[Sasaki Kojiro]

That "mafia can't reveal themselves" contains a potential exploit, since it essentially means anyone who claims mafia is innocent. Claiming mafia should be automatic suicide.

[GeneralHankerchief]

That "mafia can't reveal themselves" contains a potential exploit, since it essentially means anyone who claims mafia is innocent. Claiming mafia should be automatic suicide.

Hmm, good point...

From now on the rule is dropped. However, once you are dead you *must* act innocent.

Sasaki, you can snip all posts that don't follow this rule.

[Ice]

Crap, I missed a voting round.

[Drisos]

I was detective in Mafia II.

I knew that -

Does he say things meant towards mafia people against the detective? I don't recall you being mafioso.

[Csargo]

Hmm, good point...

From now on the rule is dropped. However, once you are dead you *must* act innocent.

Sasaki, you can snip all posts that don't follow this rule.

Where's the fun in that?

[King Henry V]

Chief of Police Beirut finished tallying the votes for a second time. This time there was a clear "winner." Good. Then he could get some sleep. It had been a long day. Sighing, he addressed the Frontroom crowd.

"Gentlemen," he began. You have chosen Kagemusha as the mafioso. Let's hope for all of our sakes that you are right.

Oddly enough, everybody was happy. The majority of the crowd was glad that they were still alive, and Kage, seemingly suicidal, smiled at this result. He bounded up to where Beirut was standing and addressed the crowd, grinning ear-to-ear.

"Thanks a lot, you guys. Glad to die. Enjoy the rest of the game-er, your lives. So, where's this poison?"

Beirut, with a look of total confusion on his face, took out a bottle of foul-smelling liquid. "Open your mouth, Kage."

Kage just laughed and took the bottle. "That's ok, I'll do it myself. Bottoms up!" And then, as if this was a drinking competition, chugged the whole bottle of poison down. Actually, he didn't drink the whole thing. Kage fell to the ground with a "thud" about halfway through.

Beirut blinked. There was total silence.

"Uh, okay... let's hope you, uh, chose correctly... yeah. Go away now."

The scariest day and weirdest night of everyone's lives had just ended. They turned and went back to their homes, hoping that tomorrow would be a return to normalcy.

Here is the vote tally for Session 1a:
Kagemusha: 13 (Kommodus, Sir Moody, Myrddraal, Evil Maniac From Mars, Cowhead418, Destroyer of Hope, doc_bean, Ignoramus, Kagemusha, Lemur, discovery1, Masy, Leet Eriksson)
Drisos: 8 (Sasaki Kojiro, Crazed Rabbit, Big King Sanctaphrax, Byzantine Mercenary, Drisos, UltraWar, Divine Wind, Csar)

Abstained: 5 (Dutch_guy, Reenk Roink, Zalmoxis, Sigurd Fafnesbane, AggonyDuck)
Didn't vote: 4 (The Spartan, Orb, King Henry V, Ice)

~~~~~~~

Still alive:
Sasaki Kojiro
UltraWar
Sigurd Fafnesbane
discovery1
doc_bean
Dutch_guy
The Spartan
Orb
Sir Moody
Csar
King Henry V
Ignoramus
Reenk Roink
Myrddraal
Crazed Rabbit
Ice
Zalmoxis
Destroyer of Hope
Drisos
Masy
Big King Sanctaphrax
Divine Wind
Evil Maniac From Mars
Cowhead418
Kommodus
AggonyDuck
Lemur
Leet Eriksson
Byzantine Mercenary

Killed:
Silver Rusher
Tiberius

Executed:
Kagemusha

I think you'll find that I did vote. https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...0&postcount=94