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    Default Re: Another reason to hate Vista... It's a major memory hog

    Quote Originally Posted by Husar
    Games that require DirectX 10 are exclusive for Vista since DirectX 10 is exclusive for Vista and is not going to be available for XP.

    But I still think the memory thing is not worth mentioning, because after thinking about it for longer I was reminded of Alt-Tabbing.
    If you al-Tab into windows and back into a game, you will have to wait both times because of your memory. This proves that while in a game, a lot of the data windows uses, is not in your memory anymore(except if you have a lot more memory than the game needs) so the memory usage of Windows in idle state is no indicator for gaming performance. Just because you all decided to hate Microsoft does not mean it's always justified.
    (I'm not saying everything they do is nice and fine, but it's not all bad either)
    Honestly, I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to say, other than defending M$, and making a poor case, too.

    First of all, the alt-tabbing as you refer to it, is called context switching. The reason you have to "wait" is because, like you said, some of the data is not in memory, but has been swapped out to the disk. However, I can assure you that all the memory that windows occupies in an "idle" state (i.e., the OS itself), is still very much in memory - all the time.

    The delay is caused by the fact that the OS needs to swap out the current application (i.e., in your example, the game), and swap in whatever application you may be switching to.
    But the OS is always there, and that memory is occupied all the time. Ok ? Afaik, kernels are not being swapped.

    Now, about your statement that "the memory usage of Windows in idle state is no indicator for gaming performance.", what does that have to do with anything ??
    The point of the thread is not the gaming performance, but, as you can see from the topic title, the fact that vista is a memory hog. Which the memory usage in idle state is a perfect indicator of.

    Just because you all decided to hate Microsoft does not mean it's always justified.
    Actually, some of us presented some arguments for our "hate", as you put it.
    You didn't show anything that holds any water, so far. The topic of the discussion was that it's a memory hog, and that's one (more) reason some people don't like it. Unless you're arguing that it's not a memory hog, then we're all in agreement

    edit: didn't mean to come out as aggressive as I may have.
    Last edited by Blodrast; 10-14-2006 at 22:46.
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