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    You really can't make this stuff up. Well, I guess somebody can, since they did. Apparently the Apple Store in midtown Manhattan, when shuttered for repairs or whatever, is a direct insult to Islam:

    On October 10, 2006, an Islamic website posted a message alerting Muslims to what it claims is a new insult to Islam. According to the message, the cube-shaped building which is being constructed in New York City, on Fifth Avenue between 58th and 59th Streets in midtown Manhattan, is clearly meant to provoke Muslims. The fact that the building resembles the Ka'ba (see picture below), is called "Apple Mecca," is intended to be open 24 hours a day like the Ka'ba, and moreover, contains bars selling alcoholic beverages, constitutes a blatant insult to Islam. The message urges Muslims to spread this alert, in hope that "Muslims will be able to stop the project."



    Although if you look at it without the shutters, I'm scratching my head as to how you can see the connection:


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    Good for them. Irrational beliefs should be brutally hammered away at.

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    As it stands, ordinary Muslims probably shouldn't take offence. If millions of iPod-listening slackers start travelling from around the world to New York to see/shop at this particular store, then I would say they have an excuse to get worried.
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    I sometimes ski at a mountain occasionally called the 'mecca' for snowboarders- is there going to be a Jihad? And if there is, can it just be on the snowboarders, as I don't like them.

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    I do love Islam...and who decided this was offensive to Islam? Because Id like to ask him/her why s/he is so incredibly arrogant/self important to think that Islam is so important in the eyes of Apple computers that they would feel the need to mock it by building an expensive building just to insult their religion...

    Newsflash freakshow! Apple doesnt care about your religion, they are a big fat company, all they care about is profit.
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    I thought is was more of a crass imitation of the equally crass glass pyramid entrance at the Louvre...
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    Are you kidding me? And then people are supposed to think that all Muslims are even-headed, wonderful, peace-loving people. For Apple's sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    I sometimes ski at a mountain occasionally called the 'mecca' for snowboarders- is there going to be a Jihad? And if there is, can it just be on the snowboarders, as I don't like them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    I sometimes ski at a mountain occasionally called the 'mecca' for snowboarders- is there going to be a Jihad? And if there is, can it just be on the snowboarders, as I don't like them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou
    You could probably go to India and buy a fatwa against snowboarders for about $100.
    That'd be Pakistan, ol' buddy. India would cost $125.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio
    I thought is was more of a crass imitation of the equally crass glass pyramid entrance at the Louvre...
    LOL, I was thinking the same thing... a poor man's Louvre!!!
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    I didn't know Muslims invented big cubes. You learn something every day.

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    I dunno. I can kinda see the similarity. Square. Plain. Big.

    Big Deal? Just silliness. But I'm surprised that sensitive Apple missed this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
    Bastard! What you got against snowboarders?
    I hate their slow butts grinding with board sideways down the mountain on slopes above their class, scraping off all the powder. You (as in snowboarders on the mountain) can't say you went down a black diamond if you scraped down the steep parts, fool!

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    I dunno. It does look similar, and the name plus the shape is a little too funky for me to just dismiss as nonsense.

    I mean, if someone built a big glass building with two semicircular wings and a dome in the center, and called it "The [insert corporation here] Cathedral", you would see quite a few Catholics up in arms.

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    Oh please, enough of the excuses and moral relativism.

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    What religious people (like me) need to remember is that if you hold someting to be sacred, then you open yourself to being offended. I think Apple have got this wrong. Using the name Mecca or making the building like a cube is problably ok individually, but the combination of the two is too much. Any Moslem who is offended is entitled to say so and should he or she choose, not buy an Ipod: nothing more. What we, and Apple, need to remember is that offense is in the ear of the beholder, so if someone says they are offended, they are offended. What any offended Moslem needs to understand is that it is they who are offended, not Allah. (God can take care of himself and is big enough to rise above such things.)

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    I mean, if someone built a big glass building with two semicircular wings and a dome in the center, and called it "The [insert corporation here] Cathedral", you would see quite a few Catholics up in arms.
    Not sacred enough to be a close parallel. Having a shop with a huge communion wafer sign outside and calling it the "Real Presence" would be more like it. However in such a case, wise Catholics would be pleased to see their faith given a high profile and seize the opportunity to explain their creed to a wider audience. I am sure wise Moslems will do the same in this case.
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    I'm an athiest. I get offended everytime I see a cold, empty room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    You really can't make this stuff up. Well, I guess somebody can, since they did. Apparently the Apple Store in midtown Manhattan, when shuttered for repairs or whatever, is a direct insult to Islam:

    On October 10, 2006, an Islamic website posted a message alerting Muslims to what it claims is a new insult to Islam. According to the message, the cube-shaped building which is being constructed in New York City, on Fifth Avenue between 58th and 59th Streets in midtown Manhattan, is clearly meant to provoke Muslims. The fact that the building resembles the Ka'ba (see picture below), is called "Apple Mecca," is intended to be open 24 hours a day like the Ka'ba, and moreover, contains bars selling alcoholic beverages, constitutes a blatant insult to Islam. The message urges Muslims to spread this alert, in hope that "Muslims will be able to stop the project."



    Although if you look at it without the shutters, I'm scratching my head as to how you can see the connection:

    Nice building, definately a cool way of creating a glass look to it. Question also do the TV screens shift background lighting and color in correlation to the sun and moon?

    Personally this is a huge stretch, the cube is used because it looks like an apple computer. Not to mention the cube is more of a replica of the horrible piece of sidewalk obstruction infront of the Louvre.
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    It was posted by just an Islamic website and blogs all over the Western post a little story about to show how intolerant muslims are, right after their entry about how insulting the "Nothing good ever came out of America" advertisement was.

    Silly indeed.

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    I find it quite a compliment.
    In French, when you speak of the Mecca of (whatever) it means it is hugely popular. La Mecque de la Mode (the Mecca of fashion) means that every body HAS to go and learn from there.
    Some Islamist /Fascist / stupid / politician should learn languages and stop to think negative about their own religion. I am sure that the Catholic Church should be very happy if it could be named the Apple St Jacques of Compostelle.
    By the way, to name a shell of a Holly Place of Pilgrimage is an offence to the Catholic faith and well, what the Pope wait to start a Crusader against all Sea Food restaurants
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
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    Quote Originally Posted by drone
    If millions of iPod-listening slackers start travelling from around the world to New York to see/shop at this particular store, then I would say they have an excuse to get worried.
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    Looks as though the Lemur was deceived (along with thousands of other Digg readers). Apparently the web site that posted this news nugget is not reputable, and, well, read for yourself.

    The reality of the matter was that it was a random post on a random website, without a single supporting name or organization to reflect the “muslim community’s outrage.” The MEMRI article did not even link to, nor identify, the Arabic news source it was supposed to be citing or translating!

    If you look again into MEMRI’s background, the organization seems to be a source not known for being unbiased.

    Now I wouldn’t be one to pass judgement quickly, but given these irregularities, I would tend to think that this is plain propaganda aimed at discrediting the Muslim community.

    Someone posted unconfirmed junk on the internet? How dare they! I sure hope that never happens again. Ugh. I feel so used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    Now I wouldn’t be one to pass judgement quickly, but given these irregularities, I would tend to think that this is plain propaganda aimed at discrediting the Muslim community.
    Or damage control, after all it could spark the thought that muslims don't react well to critisism, satire and social exclusion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    Oh please, enough of the excuses and moral relativism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoreBag
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    Nice, Pape.

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