Franco-Turkish relations strained

[Vladimir]

Since I do so enjoy pointing out the hanging buggers and braided hairs in the skyward point noses of French aristocrats, I thought to pass this one along. It seems like the French government is about to instigate another devastating boycott like the one suffered during the “Freedom Fries” era.

http://www.isn.ethz.ch/news/sw/details.cfm?ID=16800

The French National Assembly on 13 October passed a bill, which, if approved by the Senate and signed by President Jacques Chirac, would penalize anyone denying the Armenian genocide at the hands of the Ottoman Turks with a fine of up to €45,000 (US$56,000) and one year in prison.

What will they call them this time? Fez fries? Faris fries (MTW reference)? Who knows. I don’t know whether or not this was prompted by concerned citizens, the recent (and continuing) burning of Paris, or what. It just reinforces my belief that the French (and to a lesser extent, German) government is trying to turn the European Union into the Union Française.

Presidential candidates, according to an official in Ankara, are trying to win the votes of those citizens opposed to Turkey's EU accession bid. Moreover, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's administration believes that France is "permanently hostile" to Ankara's EU integration.

No disrespect towards the citizens, just the ruling aristocracy. It seems like if they really wanted to piss off the Turks, they chose the right subject.

Rumor [me] has it that they’ll make up for the lost revenue by increasing arms sales to petty dictators. They lost one of their biggest customers a couple years back and are looking to expand their customer base.

[Kralizec]

I thought that this proposal was already shot down in the senate? Chirac wouldn't have signed it at any rate.

It just reinforces my belief that the French (and to a lesser extent, German) government is trying to turn the European Union into the Union Française.

How so?

[Andres]

Well, fine with me if France desides to punish you if you deny the Armenian genocide.

I just wonder, are there any laws in France that punish you if you deny, e.g. the genocide in Ruanda, the genocide(s) in Bosnia, the genocide against the native americans, ...

Just a matter of being consequent...

Edit: And if France would adopt a whole series of laws that punishes the denial of all genocides that occured in history, the Tukish maybe wouldn't feel "envisagés" anymore. (hope I'm making my point clear here, I really should do something 'bout my English).

[Scurvy]

exactly, if the state is going to dictate what its citizens should think, then it should at least be consistent,

what is the point in this law from france? (i'm actually interested)

[Vladimir]

Well, fine with me if France desides to punish you if you deny the Armenian genocide.

I just wonder, are there any laws in France that punish you if you deny, e.g. the genocide in Ruanda, the genocide(s) in Bosnia, the genocide against the native americans, ...

Just a matter of being consequent...

Edit: And if France would adopt a whole series of laws that punishes the denial of all genocides that occured in history, the Tukish maybe wouldn't feel "envisagés" anymore. (hope I'm making my point clear here, I really should do something 'bout my English).

Yea, I just read your Drunk Thread post

I thought that this proposal was already shot down in the senate? Chirac wouldn't have signed it at any rate.

It could be, it's an old article. I was away.

[Andres]

Yea, I just read your Drunk Thread post

It happens to the best of us.

Speaking of beer, you might want to add a delicious belgian beer on your list: Quintine, comes in different variatons. Not easy to find though. Brewed in the "Pays de Collines". The blond 5.2 % variant tastes wonderful. Hope I won't end up in the Drunkards Thread again

[Ser Clegane]

We already had that one

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