Hunters are 'serial killers'.

[Crazed Rabbit]

A surreal look into the forum of a bunch of animal rights nuts:
http://www.animalsuffering.com/forum...ighlight=crain

Apparently, hunters are serial killers and justice is served when they die;

well, someone had to make a post like that eventually [ie. asking why they are celebrating a person's death]. just let us have a moment to revel in justice since we spend much of the rest of our lifes stressed, under arrest or doing boring profitless protests because of the selfish **** like this **** in the world.
this man set out to kill others for fun, bet he didnt want to die himself did he?? i say ha ha bloody ha.

Hunters who "properly protect themselves" (follow the safety guidelines, point their weapons in the "right" directions, aren't stupid enough to fall out of their tree stands) are frequently killed/maimed as a direct result of their hunting activity. What can be expected? You climb a tree, crawl under or over fencing, stumble around on uneven ground while carrying a loaded rifle or shotgun ... safety guidelines be damned. Throw in a cooler of favorite brew and the safety inhibitions just sort of take a back seat to the anticipation of the "thrill of the kill."

When the hunters kill each other, that's not exactly the thrill they have in mind, but what the hell ... a kill is a kill. Who knows? Maybe the widow will have her hunter hubby's head mounted on the den wall as a poignant rememberance of his love for the sport. I'm surprised the law doesn't allow this in my beloved state of Texas.
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Hunters are willing to deal with these dangers because they are selfish, arrogant killers who willingly live violent, hateful lifestyles involving the cruel, pointless destruction of innocent, sentient life. Whether or not they are so willing to accept the consequences when those potential dangers become their stark realities is another matter. Of course, at that point, most of them are not in a position to debate the issue.

So: When a hunter is killed while in pursuit of his sport, I again offer my expression of sympathy:

"Happy! Happy! - Joy! Joy!"

Apparently, when humans (which are equal to animals) hunt, its evil, but when animals do it, its the natural cycle.

Need a bit more righteous anger? Check out these animal-whacko books;
http://www.akuk.com/mainpage.php?sta...=20&ThisSub=46
Look for 'rage and reason'.

It is one thing to disagree about hunting, but these folks have gone off the deep end of hate.

Edit: What drives them to this? Perhaps feeling empty in the world, then looking for something to stand for, to fill a void in their life?

CR

[GoreBag]

Well, it can be said that some guys are just out there to spill as much blood as possible without repercussions, even though I doubt killing another man is on the agenda. I'm pretty indifferent either way - some guys want to go off and put their lives at risk for a weekend to go kill stuff, that's fine with me.

[Aenlic]

Edit: What drives them to this? Perhaps feeling empty in the world, then looking for something to stand for, to fill a void in their life?

CR

It's their religion. Animal rights activists of that sort are as dogmatic and illogical as any other religious fanatic. Like all religions, theirs fills some void (usually a self-created void in the first place) in their lives. They fill the void with illogical nonsense, overbearing self-righteousness, unreasoning faith in their belief system and a general inability to grasp the possibilty of differing views. They "know" they're right. Because of that, they can't be reasoned with in any meaningful way. No different than any other religion, really.

[Redleg]

I really got a laugh out of some of the threads on that site.

[Xiahou]

It is one thing to disagree about hunting, but these folks have gone off the deep end of hate.

Edit: What drives them to this? Perhaps feeling empty in the world, then looking for something to stand for, to fill a void in their life?

CR

I think it borders on insanity... you decide which side of the border they're on.
I don't hunt and don't envision myself ever doing so- but I think it serves an important recreational and conservational service. And some of those animals are tasty.

[Ronin]

Man....that site is wacky...

personally I´d say I think there is something wrong with people that hunt for fun....hunting for food I have no problem with....but I see something basically wrong in going out and killing something just for the hell of it......but even speaking of those people I wouldn´t go as far as calling them "serial killers"....a little twisted maybe....but come on...let´s not go over the deep end here.

[Husar]

I'm also against hunting if one does it only for fun and some trophy.
But this forum seems to be full of weird people of all sorts.

[InsaneApache]

I can see a warning for unsuitable language.

[BigTex]

That's a horrible way to die. Falling from a blind I doubt he died quickly. Those people are even worse, they revel at the site of a man, a husband, a father dieing. What's worse is they don't even care that they profess to love all animals and yet care nothing of this mans death.

Edit: What drives them to this? Perhaps feeling empty in the world, then looking for something to stand for, to fill a void in their life?

There are alot of backward and strange people in this world. Quite alot of hate must have been around that person for them to go down that path. Sad really, they hate hunters and yet it is the hunter that has done so much more for animal conservation and endangered species protection then they will ever do.



But I guess there's the ultimate question one could ask in this situation. CR how did you run across that forum? You certainly have some strange surfing habits.

[Hepcat]

These sort of people are the New Zealand religous fanatics. The people who break into science facilities and smash them up. They are convinced that they are saving the world by making everything "natural". They are convinced that having huge conservation areas, islands and programmes which cost millions aren't good enough. They want to destroy all signs of human progress in their quest for what is natural.

Nobody ever points out to them that their homes aren't natural, or that speaking isn't natural or that planting things isn't natural or that having a political view point isn't natural or caring for any species other than your own isn't natural.


There are too many stupid people in the world and because we have such a small population these stupid people are able to get their nutcase party into parliment.

They aren't the Green party! They are RED! ALL OF THEM!!!

and I always thought the same thing. They are anarcho-communists with a plan to destroy human civilisation and create a society of apes without any un-naturally creative or intelligent thought allowed.

[CrossLOPER]

Man....that site is wacky...

personally I´d say I think there is something wrong with people that hunt for fun....hunting for food I have no problem with....but I see something basically wrong in going out and killing something just for the hell of it......but even speaking of those people I wouldn´t go as far as calling them "serial killers"....a little twisted maybe....but come on...let´s not go over the deep end here.

I don't see anything bad in a little sport, so long as you don't waste what you get. I don't like the way some crazies go out and kill 50 fowl and then leave the carcasses to rot.

[Ronin]

I don't see anything bad in a little sport, so long as you don't waste what you get. I don't like the way some crazies go out and kill 50 fowl and then leave the carcasses to rot.

Like you said...I see nothing wrong if you eat what you hunt..and only hunt what you really need....but some people sure do it because they turn hunting into some sort of twisted powertrip...

[Prodigal]

Apparently, when humans (which are equal to animals) hunt, its evil, but when animals do it, its the natural cycle.

I'd like to think the introduction of scopes & high powered rifles into the whole hunter-prey relationship would explain the attitude toward hunting a little, but I suspect they'd still be righteously outraged if you used a used a fire hardended stick. Funny they never seem to kick up a fuss about fishing competitions.

Not all "green" policy is total lunacy, & its a shame that the freaks get the spotlight, the bbc interviewed a new zealander this week, who was saying that the feed for cows & sheep in europe had a high energy cost. Its grown in one place, proccessed then shipped to the country where the animals eat it...His point was, that in new zealand the energy required for the animal feed was very low..."They eat the grass" Now doesn't that beg the question, what the fark are they being fed, & what's wrong with grass?

[Fragony]

what the fark are they being fed, & what's wrong with grass?

Theirselves, nothing goes to waste

[Prodigal]

Theirselves, nothing goes to waste

Be interesting to know who it was that managed to convince people to buy processed meat to feed their herbivores with, that said its no doubt the same people that dreamed up vegetarian cat food.

I mean, tell me if the logic's weird but what's wrong with feeding the cat cow, & the cow the veggie option?

[Husar]

I'd like to think the introduction of scopes & high powered rifles into the whole hunter-prey relationship would explain the attitude toward hunting a little, but I suspect they'd still be righteously outraged if you used a used a fire hardended stick. Funny they never seem to kick up a fuss about fishing competitions.

Oh well, we have rifles, an eagle has wings and claws, isn't that kind of unfair towards a rabbit as well?
Should hunters jump onto the deer and bite through their throats?

[Goofball]

While I am not a big "gun guy," or a fan of trophy hunting, I agree that calling hunters "serial killers" is laughable. I guess that by that logic, cattle ranchers are the equivalent of Nazi death camp commandants?

[drone]

While I am not a big "gun guy," or a fan of trophy hunting, I agree that calling hunters "serial killers" is laughable. I guess that by that logic, cattle ranchers are the equivalent of Nazi death camp commandants?

Shhhhhhh! Don't give them any ideas.

[caravel]

Definitely a nut job website. Where nutters can argue with other nutters but ultimately agree anyway. "Evil animal killers" would probably get banned instantly, and not be allowed to speak their mind. I've never understood these types. They rant on about protecting animals from hunting, yet they fail to realise that a food chain exists, with one type of animal eating another, how nature intended it. Humans happen to be at the top of that chain. We didn't get to where we are today by eating grass. Their ancestors ate meat and their earlier ancestors probably ate each other. We've got beyond cannibalism, but we still need meat as part of our diet.

Hunters, using their flawed logic, are in fact worthy of more respect than farmers or those that eat meat. Hunters go out and kill, gut and clean, and often prepare and cook, their own food. Food that had a sporting chance at life, not food that was confined for life then slaughtered. They can only see the hunter as a person who is taking "pleasure" from the kill. This is why they hate them more. Fox hunters are probably "sport" hunters in the true sense. Their quarry yeilds no food stuff. A deer hunter will bring home venison. Big difference. Food.

These types of people always seem to exhibit similar behaviour to those that are parts of extremist religious groups

[Sasaki Kojiro]

[King Henry V]

Definitely a nut job website. Where nutters can argue with other nutters but ultimately agree anyway. "Evil animal killers" would probably get banned instantly, and not be allowed to speak their mind. I've never understood these types. They rant on about protecting animals from hunting, yet they fail to realise that a food chain exists, with one type of animal eating another, how nature intended it. Humans happen to be at the top of that chain. We didn't get to where we are today by eating grass. Their ancestors ate meat and their earlier ancestors probably ate each other. We've got beyond cannibalism, but we still need meat as part of our diet.

Hunters, using their flawed logic, are in fact worthy of more respect than farmers or those that eat meat. Hunters go out and kill, gut and clean, and often prepare and cook, their own food. Food that had a sporting chance at life, not food that was confined for life then slaughtered. They can only see the hunter as a person who is taking "pleasure" from the kill. This is why they hate them more. Fox hunters are probably "sport" hunters in the true sense. Their quarry yeilds no food stuff. A deer hunter will bring home venison. Big difference. Food.

These types of people always seem to exhibit similar behaviour to those that are parts of extremist religious groups

However, fox hunting also controls the population of a fairly nasty predator, they kind of predator which kills fwuffy widdle wabbits.

[GoreBag]

Oh well, we have rifles, an eagle has wings and claws, isn't that kind of unfair towards a rabbit as well?
Should hunters jump onto the deer and bite through their throats?

Should they? Yes. Will they? No.

[Husar]

Should they? Yes. Will they? No.

I don't doubt that you would, but I think noone should.

[Prodigal]

Oh well, we have rifles, an eagle has wings and claws, isn't that kind of unfair towards a rabbit as well?
Should hunters jump onto the deer and bite through their throats?

True, but the eagles did grow them themselves. Sure humans used what they have to invent weapons, however your average person couldn't design & manufacturer a scope or rifle, now if you were hunting with a bow, or a spear, making your own traps. Those are things that a great many people could achieve, of course most wouldn't be unable to use a bow, & your average obese bloke probably wouldn't have a snowballs chance with a spear either.

I don't agree with the green gestapo, but I really cannot get along with the hunting ethic where the only real skill requirement is money & the ability to load, point, & pull a trigger, (although in saying that...I can think of two video clips...One guy missing a stationary deer in the open 5 or 6 times, & another with a deer beating six shades out of a guy with a gun...In either case its probably time they considered putting themselves up for a darwin award).

So to conclude, when you've missed, when you see the gleam in the savage herbivore's eye, teeth seem like a pretty good next move.

Dunno if this allowed, but the latter vid's on thatvideosite and is titled "did you just try to ******* shoot me!"

[Husar]

Do you also plant your own groceries and bake your own bread?
Why is using a gun worse than using a bow?
Only because it's easier?
Did you also build you house yourself using only tool you had built yourself? So you have floating water? And did you build your computer yourself?
If not, then that would be unfair and unnatural if I understood you correctly.

[lars573]

Apparently, when humans (which are equal to animals) hunt, its evil, but when animals do it, its the natural cycle.

You missing an important part of their logic. We humans have tried to remove ourselfs from the natural cycle. But not enough. We still kill and eat other furry things.

Need a bit more righteous anger? Check out these animal-whacko books;
http://www.akuk.com/mainpage.php?sta...=20&ThisSub=46
Look for 'rage and reason'.

Try reading planet of the apes.

[Crazed Rabbit]

IP and email registering, eh? There are ways around that.

Crazed Rabbit

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Correct Crazed

That is Sad. Really Sad. I like to ask one of them if they are worried that someone/someones will come to their Fourm to Debate with them?

[Hepcat]

I would imagine that any attempt at a debate would be met with a wave of insults, rantings and usual anarchist rubbish. You may as well ask the animals for their opinions because you would get a much more reasoned statement.

For example:
"So Mr duck, what is your opinion of hunting and the effects on the ecology. There are those who claim that murdering animals should be a crime. What do you say to that?"
Quack

There, that is much more sensible than anything the Greens have to say.

[doc_bean]

See how much they respect the 'rights' and integrity of their favourite animals !

Liberty or death ? Not for cats !